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To: ravenwolf; only1percent
"I agree, many older kids go along with going to church just out of respect of their parents wishes or to get along with them and then go along in taking part in a ministry out of respect for the Church. What is the point in learning the Gospel of Christ if they never get a chance to go out into the world and use it? How many people in Church are hungry or thirsty or need helped out of the ditch?"

I also think the 85% is a skewed number in that we are assuming that these kids are actually "the Church". Just because someone has been taught what the Gospel is, doesn't mean they were chosen before the foundation of the world, or if they were chosen, had been elected to believe at a young age. There is a difference between living in light of the Gospel as a Holy Spirit dwelt believer vs. living out a set of moralisms.

It is my understanding that the Doctrine of Perseverance will not have a true believer leaving the faith and never returning. If one does leave, it may be that they were never "of us"...but just "among us".

42 posted on 08/25/2013 1:25:43 PM PDT by uptoolate (Republicans sure do like their liberalism)
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To: uptoolate

It is my understanding that the Doctrine of Perseverance will not have a true believer leaving the faith and never returning. If one does leave, it may be that they were never “of us”...but just “among us”.


You have a good point, but my only question would be if some one leaves the Church does it mean they are leaving the faith or are they just leaving the doctrine of the Church?

But actually i think you are right, i don,t think they have lived long enough for God to put that much responsibility on them even if they were chosen before the foundation of the world, Jesus was close to 30 before he started his ministry and we know he was chosen.


44 posted on 08/25/2013 2:10:57 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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