Sounds like SOMEone needs a HUG!
Posted on 08/22/2013 3:56:07 PM PDT by NYer
>> “Where did you get that information?” <<.
In a fit of brain fog he said that the evilutionists must be right, and most of the RC ‘church’ jumped on the band wagon with him.
Theologians in the Catholic Church have been pushing evolution since the nineteenth century (one example being "St." John Henry Newman). But it really kicked into high gear after the death of Pius X, who was probably the very last of the anti-evolutionist popes. At any rate, long before John Paul I. For some reasons Catholics feel they must discredit the Bible in order to show the necessity of their official oral interpretive tradition (something Orthodox Jews have never had to do).
I am at a complete loss at the naivete claimed by some of the conservative Catholics on this forum. They know their co-religionists have posted attacks on the veracity of the Bible. They know their own bibles at home have higher critical notes and commentary. And surely they are aware of the many Catholic publications that routinely make a punching bag of the Bible's accuracy. Then they come along and post that they are shocked--shocked!!!--that anyone would think that their Church is liberal.
I do believe that is among the definitions of a cult.
“Someone wouldn’t be posting threads promoting the RCC if it wasn’t correct, would they?”
Unfortunately they do. And many of them don’t accept fraternal correction.
The name Christian is used loosely today like Romney claimed being a conservative.
Those who follow Jesus are Christians. JESUS is The WORD. If HE is not someone's FINAL Authority they aren't Christian and they will be judged on Judgement Day.
Christians will not be as our Savior Jesus was judged and deemed guilty and HE took our punishment! Thank You, Jesus. WHAT A GIFT!! It is ALL about JESUS!
I am not sure that it matters what we call Him. We could call him Truth, Hosanna, Jehovah-Jirah, Abba-Father... right?
I do have an affinity for the name Jesus,I will admit, because that was how I knew Him when I was a very little kid. He is my first love and the first born of all living things.
:)
Hey, it’s that time.
Shabbat Shalom.
I have loved learning about the calendar of God’s appointed times. Learning about the Passover from messianic jews has been such a comfort. AND it is almost time for Sukkot, after a season of being judged, we see our shelter. The feast of the Tabernacles, the Season of Joy!
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Fall_Holidays/Sukkot/sukkot.html
That’s not what the word of Yehova says.
It says that he wants to be called by his real name.
Says who? Some guy named Shane or Popes, Saints and Vatican Councils?
The Catholic Church has solemnly defined three times by infallible declarations that outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation. The most explicit and forceful of the three came from Pope Eugene IV, in the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441, who proclaimed ex cathedra: "The Most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, also Jews, heretics, and schismatics can ever be partakers of eternal life, but that they are to go into the eternal fire 'which was prepared for the devil and his angels' (Mt. 25:41) unless before death they are joined with Her... No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ can be saved unless they abide within the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church."
The other two infallible declarations are as follows: There is one universal Church of the faithful, outside of which no one at all can be saved. Pope Innocent III, ex cathedra, (Fourth Lateran Council, 1215).
We declare, say , define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff. Pope Boniface VIII, (Unam Sanctam, 1302).
This means, and has always meant, that salvation and unity exist only within the Catholic Church, and that members of heretical groups cannot be considered as "part" of the Church of Christ. This doctrine has been the consistent teaching of the Popes throughout the centuries.
Further, it is dogmatically set forth that no authority in the Church, no matter how highly placed, may lawfully attempt to change the clear meaning of this (or any) infallible dogma. Vatican I taught: "The meaning of Sacred Dogmas, which must always be preserved, is that which our Holy Mother the Church has determined. Never is it permissible to depart from this in the name of a deeper understanding." This same Vatican I defined solemnly that not even a Pope may teach a new doctrine.
Naturally, the truth that there is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church has been supported by all the saints from every age. Following are several examples:
St. Irenaeus (130-202), Bishop and Martyr: "The Church is the entrance to life; all others are thieves and robbers. On this account we are bound to avoid them . . . . We hear it declared of the unbelieving and the blinded of this world that they shall not inherit the world of life which is to come . . . . Resist them in defense of the only true and life giving faith, which the Church has received from the Apostles and imparted to her sons."
St. Augustine (354-430), Bishop and Doctor of the Church: "No man can find salvation except in the Catholic Church. Outside the Catholic Church one can have everything except salvation. One can have honor, one can have sacraments, one can sing alleluia, one can answer amen, one can have faith in the Name of the Father and the Son and of the Holy Ghost, and preach it too, but never can one find salvation except in the Catholic Church."
St. Fulgentius (468-533), Bishop: "Most firmly hold and never doubt that not only pagans, but also Jews, all heretics, and all schismatics who finish this life outside of the Catholic Church, will go into eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."
Pope St. Gregory the Great (590-604): "The holy universal Church teaches that it is not possible to worship God truly except in Her and asserts that all who are outside of Her will not be saved."
St. Francis of Assisi (1182-1226): "All who have not believed that Jesus Christ was really the Son of God are doomed. Also, all who see the Sacrament of the Body of Christ and do not believe it is really the most holy Body and Blood of the Lord . . . these also are doomed!"
St. Thomas Aquinas (1226-1274), the Angelic Doctor: There is no entering into salvation outside the Catholic Church, just as in the time of the Flood there was not salvation outside the Ark, which denotes the Church."
St. Louis Marie de Montfort (1673-1716): "There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. Anyone who resists this truth perishes."
St. Robert Bellarmine (1542-1621), Bishop and Doctor of the Church: "Outside the Church there is no salvation...therefore in the symbol (Apostles Creed) we join together the Church with the remission of sins: 'I believe in the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins"...For this reason the Church is compared to the Ark of Noah, because just as during the deluge, everyone perished who was not in the ark, so now those perish who are not in the Church."
St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori (1696-1787), Bishop and Doctor of the Church: "All the misfortunes of unbelievers spring from too great an attachment to the things of life. This sickness of heart weakens and darkens the understanding, and leads to eternal ruin. If they would try to heal their hearts by purging them of their vices, they would soon receive light, which would show them the necessity of joining the Catholic Church, where alone is salvation. We should constantly thank the Lord for having granted us the gift of the true Faith, by associating us with the children of the Holy Catholic Church ... How many are the infidels, heretics, and schismatics who do not enjoy the happiness of the true Faith! Earth is full of them and they are all lost!"
Pope Pius XII (1939-1958): Some say they are not bound by the doctrine which teaches that the Mystical Body of Christ and the Roman Catholic Church are one and the same thing. Some reduce to a meaningless formula the necessity of belonging to the true Church in order to gain eternal salvation. Others finally belittle the reasonable character of the credibility of Christian Faith. These and like ERRORS, it is clear, have crept in among certain of our sons who are deceived by imprudent zeal for souls or by false science."
http://www.olrl.org/doctrine/eens2.shtml
What a roller-coaster ride this is.
Q: Do Catholics believe in the Bible?
A: Yes! In fact, Catholics invented the Bible
Q: Do Catholics read the Bible?
A: Yes, we actually do, perhaps even more so than most Protestants.
Q: Do Catholics follow the Bible alone?
A: No. Catholics do not follow the Bible alone because it’s not Biblical to do that.
Wait, Catholics invented the Bible, claim they read it more than anyone else, but don’t trust it, because what they invented says its not Biblical to trust it? Quite the loop there.
They can't win when there is TRUTH and BELIEVERS here keep that Truth ALIVE for it is ALIVE and POWERFUL, sharper than a two-edged sword! They gave up because they had no defense, just rude behavior, sarcasm, attacking freepers about their 'scholarship' and deception from Rome/Catholicism. The title of this thread is the same - and straight from the pit.
They are desperate and they so want to be right but no willingness to change, so they will never will be. We know what Jesus said of hard headed people - He taught them and moved on. Some are just hell bent and have no use for Truth nor recognize it when they see it. Their heart is evil and it comes forth in their posts for there is no truth in them but they rest on what the flesh can do - works. They are worldly people with a mindset to match - the reason they are drawn to a worldly organization who are 'religious' because it is all man's/worldly beliefs - and they can never have a heart change 'in it' - because it ls satan's kingdom.
While many have left the counterfeit church, most are too far gone to escape it; therefore, no desire to seek TRUTH. God spoke of that - given them over to a depraved mind. And that takes a deliberate willingness on their part to IGNORE Truth, have NO desire for it, mocks it when they hear it and would never have it as their final authority.
Thank God for His Word - He wants no one to be left in the dark. He tells us the pitfalls of man/evil, what to expect from them/evil and how to believe HIM by renewing our mind to His Truths/His Word - which goes to our heart. And then He left us with His Spirit within to teach and comfort us and soon we understand the things of God - and when confronted with things NOT of God - we know it instantly.
What an Awesome God we serve, HE equipped us not to fail but to go on in the Victory He already has for us - finish our race! He did it ALL for us, It Is Finished. Our part is to believe HIM by the Faith He gave us and hear and obey HIM, only HIM because he taught man is evil and man will fail us - but GOD!!!!!!! It's a no brainer and yet; this article speaks of intelligence? LOL!!! Catholicism has 'something' to teach God's people? HAHAHAHA!! It's like obama/man teaching Israel what to do with their God-given land. My response to that is.. Get behind me, satan.
Dang!
And for CENTURIES I thought it was for pointing out the ERROR that pervaded their church back in Luther’s day...
AMEN!!
I do too and their OT customs - like the 7 day wedding feast!! It adds to our knowledge on the things of GOD! All KNOWING and ALL SEEING GOD and He NEVER goes outside HIS WORD.
We were grafted in so we are one with them. God Bless the JEWS who know You and speak Your Truths and teach their brothers and sisters!
Like Hobb's buddy, Calvin, and his Calvinosaurus creation.
Ya get a bit of stuff here, and a tad from over there. Toss in a pinch of something else and VIOLA!! - you've got some MORE tradition of the Fathers.
So, after centuries, who’s going to point out Luther’s errors?
What a racket.
Create a need and then fill it.
Dang! You've held up well over the years!
Thank you!
For such a miserable wretch like me needs all the pity he can get.
Luke 18:9-14
beep beep...
Sounds like SOMEone needs a HUG!
Perhaps some of us are now older and wiser, and tend to focus on more important things than politics these days.
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