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Pope Francis Warns Of Perils Of Global Unemployment
The Wall Street Journal ^ | July 22, 2013l | Stacy Meichtry,Nicholas Casey

Posted on 07/22/2013 1:45:22 PM PDT by Biggirl

ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE—Widespread youth unemployment is creating a generation of the jobless, Pope Francis said Monday, setting the tone for a weeklong visit to Brazil that marks the first foreign trip of his papacy.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: francis; unemployment; wyd

1 posted on 07/22/2013 1:45:22 PM PDT by Biggirl
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To: Biggirl

In other words, Sloth is a Biblical sin. And the longer we allow generations to sit around on the dole and not working productively, we will reap the wages of that sin.


2 posted on 07/22/2013 1:49:55 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Get rid of Socialism first - jobs and economies improve after.


3 posted on 07/22/2013 1:52:43 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: SkyDancer

Previous Popes have condemned socialism in all its myriad forms. This particular Pope has condemned ‘the dole’.


4 posted on 07/22/2013 1:54:02 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Previous Popes have condemned socialism in all its myriad forms.


Not all Popes have condemned socialism.


5 posted on 07/22/2013 2:01:50 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds are diseased.)
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To: Biggirl
Capitalism creates jobs, Your Excellency.

"Social justice" does not.

6 posted on 07/22/2013 2:02:19 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: laplata
Certainly, Peter didn't. Nor did Linus, Cletus, Clement, Sixtus, Cornelius ...

Those Popes for whom socialism was a current phenomenon have condemned it, some more strongly than others. John Paul I didn't have a chance to comment on the topic ...

7 posted on 07/22/2013 2:04:19 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Social Justice" creates poverty, misery and degradation.

Social Justice provides the framework in which individual enterprise can lead to prosperity.

8 posted on 07/22/2013 2:05:55 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

That’s right.


9 posted on 07/22/2013 2:06:01 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds are diseased.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“In other words, Sloth is a Biblical sin. And the longer we allow generations to sit around on the dole and not working productively, we will reap the wages of that sin.”

Idle hands are the devils tools.


10 posted on 07/22/2013 2:06:16 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (GOTS: Food, water, guns, ammo, useful skills, cash, and precious metals.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

And when you look around at the under-thirties we are creating legions of idle hands.


11 posted on 07/22/2013 2:07:37 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ArrogantBustard

Pope Francis is well acquainted with, and has condemned Liberation Theology. That is a good thing.


12 posted on 07/22/2013 2:09:26 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds are diseased.)
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To: Biggirl

I think the jury is still out on what this Pope’s position is on Capitalism and Social Justice. One day he condemns Socialism and then the next he condemns “unfettered Capitalism.” What I do know is that the one period in human history that created more wealth and pulled more people out of poverty, and immensely increased standards of living across the world, was the period from the mid-to-late 1700s through the early-to-mid 1900s when “unfettered Capitalism” was at its height. God created Capitalism and it is an unqualified force for good in the world.


13 posted on 07/22/2013 2:17:42 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Capitalism as a system, is amoral, meaning it takes no position on moral issues.

Many people who worked during the Industrial Revolution and before unionization, suffered terrible work conditions. However, many people enjoyed a standard of living far greater than ever enjoyed before.

Individual capitalists have a duty to treat employees justly, pay them fairly, and pursue their business with morals. In other words, the ends don’t justify the means.

Socialism, on the other hand, is immoral, as it denies people the right to own property, live by the sweat of their brow, and to determine their own destiny.

Popes have spoken about both systems, but make clear the responsibilities of capitalists, and point out the tyranny of both socialism and communism.


14 posted on 07/22/2013 2:33:54 PM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: Biggirl

Obama, please pick up the RED courtesy phone.


15 posted on 07/22/2013 2:38:25 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

“Unfettered capitalism” - which included slavery - is not necessarily a good thing, and actually was the impetus for the union movement in the early 20th century.

Think if you’d like to have an arrogant jerk like Obama in charge of you, regarding you as his personal serf and assigning you work that you had to do 6 days a week with only a brief time off for church on Sundays (if even that, in the case of Obama!), monitoring your every purchase and usually profiting from it (many people had to buy from a company store or were indebted for housing), making you work in a place with no emergency exits so that you could burn to death at your sewing machine (Triangle Fire), etc. And of course, the boss was tied in with the politicians, because he’d bought them off long ago.

That’s unfettered capitalism, which you now see only in the Third World, and of which we have seen many demonstrations recently in India and China.

If you interpret capitalism as “to the victor belongs the spoils,” “only the strong survive,” etc., which seems to be the unfettered version, then you’re building a pathway for unions and socialism.

There have to be reasonable restraints on what wealthy individuals can do to others simply because the former have more money and power. Sadly, we’re fast moving into a society where there is no restraint as long as you’re the “right” type of person.

What you don’t realize is that “unfettered capitalism” and iron-hand socialism/fascism are where the supposed opposites meet.


16 posted on 07/22/2013 2:43:36 PM PDT by livius
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To: Biggirl

Pope Francis is right. It’s really bad when economic systems don’t have jobs available for young adults who are ready form households and achieve independence from their parents.

My oldest daughter joined the military when she was 18, but her brothers are going to have a harder time navigating the education-to-employment trail.


17 posted on 07/22/2013 2:56:31 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Thomas will explain everything.")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“And when you look around at the under-thirties we are creating legions of idle hands.”

We are. The question in my mind is whether it’s a bug or a feature.


18 posted on 07/22/2013 3:02:28 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (GOTS: Food, water, guns, ammo, useful skills, cash, and precious metals.)
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To: Biggirl

It’s not like unemployment caused World War 2 or anything...oh wait...


19 posted on 07/22/2013 3:03:54 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Tax-chick

“It’s really bad when economic systems don’t have jobs available for young adults who are ready form households and achieve independence from their parents.”

It’s bad, but I do see some reasons to be optimistic. It will simply take a re-think of what it means to be employed and what is a realistic lifestyle and how to achieve it. The stereotypical “go to college, get an entry level job, and work your way up to the good life” model is largely extinct in my view. Those who survive and prosper will be those who can hustle a living and take care of themselves. And if you think about it, that may well be a better way to live.

Ask yourself, who has a more fulfilling life? The person who is essentially broke but live modestly, grows their own food, has no debt, and answers to few but God? Or the person who makes a significant salary, works 60 hour weeks, pays most of what they earn in taxes and a lot of the rest in debt payments, rarely has time for church, and never has time for their kids?


20 posted on 07/22/2013 3:11:30 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (GOTS: Food, water, guns, ammo, useful skills, cash, and precious metals.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

I agree with you in principle. I think a life of sufficiency, with an emphasis on the intangible values of family and faith, qualifies as “success.”

However, systems that price out entry-level employees, or that discourage hiring by penalizing firing, restrict the supply of jobs for everyone. The same systems usually have very high barriers to business creation, as well. Even if your business is “Regulatory Compliance Specialist” - included with “Tax-chick” at my former place of employment - starting your business is a nightmare, and most people either don’t try or run illegally until they get busted.

That’s wrong. People should be able to start a regular old retail or service business legally, without undue cost or trauma. They should be able to hire an employee at a price the employer and employee agree on, and they should be able to fire him if he doesn’t do the job.


21 posted on 07/22/2013 3:41:47 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Thomas will explain everything.")
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To: Biggirl
A transcript of the Pope’s comments to journalists on board the flight to Rio

“Good morning to all of you! They said…I have heard some strange things being said about you: that you are not “the kinds of saints I pray for” (he said this in reference to a comment Mexican journalist Valentina Alazraki made about journalists on the papal flight when she greeted him Ed.). I am here among lions; well not really lions; at least not today…But thank you. I really don’t do interviews, because I don’t know, I can’t, that’s just the way it is…I find them a bit tiresome but I thank you for your company.

My first trip is to go and visit young people. But not young people who are excluded from their own lives: I hope to find them integrated into the social fabric, into society. Because by excluding young people we commit an injustice: we take away their sense of belonging. Young people do belong somewhere, they belong to a family, a country, a culture and a faith. So we must not isolate them, we should not exclude them from society. They really are a population’s future that is a fact. They are the future. But not only them: they have a future because they are strong, they are young, they will move forward.

But life’s other extreme, the elderly, are also a people’s future, because people have a future if they make the most of both strengths: the young move society forward with their strength and the elderly with their life’s wisdom. I often think we do our elderly an injustice. We leave them out as if they had nothing to offer and yet they have wisdom, the wisdom of life, historical, national and family wisdom. And we need that.

Young people are in the midst of a crisis and we are used to a culture of “discarding”. This happens a lot with the elderly but now it is happening with these unemployed young people as well. They adopt this discarding culture. We need to put a stop to this and promote a culture of inclusion. We need to make an effort to include everyone in society. This is part of the reason I wanted to pay this visit to young people. To young people in society. Thank you my dearest “kinds of saints I do not pray for” who are not really that lion-like…

I ask you to help me during this visit, for the sake of good, of society, of the young and especially of the elderly. I thank all of you. Like the prophet Daniel, I feel a bit sad because I’ve noticed the “lions” have proved not to be that fierce!”


22 posted on 07/22/2013 4:15:04 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Tax-chick

While I would agree that people should be able to start businesses easily and entry level jobs should be available, they aren’t. Entry level jobs no longer exist; they’re hiring college grads for work at mickey d’s. And as an accountant you would know better than anyone the challenges that a small biz faces.

We are where we are and it is what it is. To paraphrase a military saying, you fight with the army you have, not the one you wish you had. The reality is that the only job or business a lot of under 30’s may have are ones that don’t officially exist.

Slightly OT, but I think this is what seals the deal for so-called immigration reform. Of course the left wing of our national uniparty wants it to increase their voter base, and of course the right wing of the uniparty wants it as a supply of cheap labor. But what doesn’t get discussed much is the shadow economy aspect. What we have is a subculture of people, at least 10 million strong, who are not only surviving but thriving on the margins. Immigration reform is in that sense not about being humane, it’s about fighting the shadow economy.


23 posted on 07/22/2013 7:01:05 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (GOTS: Food, water, guns, ammo, useful skills, cash, and precious metals.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
In other words, Sloth is a Biblical sin. And the longer we allow generations to sit around on the dole and not working productively, we will reap the wages of that sin.

Take 'em off the dole. See how long they're willing to sit around :)

24 posted on 07/22/2013 7:07:47 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: RKBA Democrat

Bump for daylight, post-coffee, comment.


25 posted on 07/22/2013 7:09:24 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Thomas will explain everything.")
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To: Alex Murphy

“Take ‘em off the dole. See how long they’re willing to sit around.”

Ain’t gonna happen. At least until widespread economic collapse is here and there’s no choice.


26 posted on 07/22/2013 7:22:52 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (GOTS: Food, water, guns, ammo, useful skills, cash, and precious metals.)
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To: markomalley
But life’s other extreme, the elderly, are also a people’s future, because people have a future if they make the most of both strengths: the young move society forward with their strength and the elderly with their life’s wisdom. I often think we do our elderly an injustice. We leave them out as if they had nothing to offer and yet they have wisdom, the wisdom of life, historical, national and family wisdom. And we need that.

So true.

27 posted on 07/23/2013 5:11:07 AM PDT by piusv
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

God created Capitalism and it is an unqualified force for good in the world.


That’s Calvinist thinking, not Roman Catholic belief.


28 posted on 08/08/2013 9:14:52 AM PDT by steelhead_trout (MYOB)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“And when you look around at the under-thirties we are creating legions of idle hands.”

Idle and unsupervised hands (like Trayvon Martin).


29 posted on 08/08/2013 11:19:05 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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