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June 17, 1462: The Battle of the Blood Drinkers
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| June 17, 2013
| Sean Fitzpatrick
Posted on 06/17/2013 9:34:36 AM PDT by NYer
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To: ArrogantBustard
IMO, Vlad III gets a bad rep in history ..." When you're fighting demons different rules apply and any "armty" that beheads the men, women, and children in the name of their "Profit" is without a doubt Satanic. Whatever it takes to stop them is acceptable the way I see it.
Just the "normal" results of battle with several dozen torn up corpses in your wire when the sun starts to rise is sickening. If you saw hundreds or thousands of heads and headless corpses wherever the enemy went I doubt you'd be inclined to think the Genevia Convention applied to such demonic animals.
Vlad did what he had to do and was a smart enough leader to know what would allow his inferior forces to defeat a superior force.
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posted on
06/17/2013 7:00:35 PM PDT
by
Rashputin
(Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
To: NYer
Bram Stoker mixed the legend of Vlad Tepys with that of Helena Bathory, a truly wedged aristocrat who murdered village maidens with impunity and creativity, and came up with his Dracula character which has become the backbone of the modern Goth sub culture.
Most illustrations show Vlad’s impalings incorrectly. A long sharpened stake went up the butt and out the mouth. I know, “thank you for sharing”. But context is everything and if we judge historic events through our enlightened humanistic ethos, we can easily be accused of cultural imperialism. Back then you had to fight fire with fire. Humans can be nasty or angelic, take your pick and live it the way you see it. But try to see it logically.
To: shibumi
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posted on
06/17/2013 7:51:50 PM PDT
by
Salamander
(Uber Alice!)
To: SunkenCiv
Question - do you have any concrete evidence that Assad has been deliberately killing Christians?
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posted on
06/17/2013 8:01:13 PM PDT
by
tjd1454
To: Salamander
Somehow, I suspected you’d be into vampires. :) ;)
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posted on
06/17/2013 8:17:34 PM PDT
by
Altariel
("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
To: tjd1454; SunkenCiv
“Question - do you have any concrete evidence that Assad has been deliberately killing Christians?”
I’d like to know myself.
Freegards,
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posted on
06/17/2013 8:19:09 PM PDT
by
Altariel
("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
To: Salamander
"And twenty thousand dead Turks surrounded the city, impaled on stakes."
I love it when my bed-time stories have a happy ending.
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posted on
06/17/2013 8:23:42 PM PDT
by
shibumi
(Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
To: Altariel
It's the teeth that do it for me...:D
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posted on
06/17/2013 10:47:16 PM PDT
by
Salamander
(.......Ãœber Alice!.......)
To: shibumi
All that was missing was Oreos and milk.
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posted on
06/17/2013 10:48:03 PM PDT
by
Salamander
(.......Ãœber Alice!.......)
To: Yollopoliuhqui
I’ve never seen “incorrect” ones, apparently.
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posted on
06/17/2013 10:49:46 PM PDT
by
Salamander
(.......Ãœber Alice!.......)
To: Altariel
Hey...guess what this is.
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posted on
06/17/2013 10:52:08 PM PDT
by
Salamander
(.......Ãœber Alice!.......)
To: Yollopoliuhqui
Most illustrations show Vlads impalings incorrectly. A long sharpened stake went up the butt and out the mouth. But you are leaving out half the story. Victims were impaled only partially, leaving their own weight to slowly push the stake through the intestines and organs. The pain must have been beyond belief.
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posted on
06/17/2013 11:36:41 PM PDT
by
denydenydeny
(Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
To: tjd1454
Assad protects Christians, and Druzes, and other minorities, especially Alawites of which he is one. Minorities are his power base, When we put AQ in charge those minorities, the ones who don't succeed in getting out will be killed by the Sunni conquerors. Emir Barack will be pleased.
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posted on
06/18/2013 5:47:13 AM PDT
by
arthurus
(Read Hazlitt's Economiws In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
To: Yollopoliuhqui; NYer
***Most illustrations show Vlads impalings incorrectly.***
Nothing new. The Assyrians were doing it thousands of years before Vlad Tepps. Their is more than one way...
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posted on
06/18/2013 8:00:01 AM PDT
by
Ruy Dias de Bivar
(Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
To: SunkenCiv
Unfortunately, the Turks later gained suzerainty over Romania and ultimately absorbed it into their empire. It would not be until the later part of the 19th century that they would win freedom from the then “sick man of Europe.”
To: ArrogantBustard
We could use another Vlad the Impaler today.
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posted on
06/19/2013 3:06:45 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Yes but, in the Assyrian version there is a single pole and those that are impaled are dead or die in the process. In Vlad's version there are two poles, a taller thicker one for the victims limbs to be tied around and a slightly shorter lubricated pointy one for the victim to "sit" on. In Vlad's version the people lived for a long time after being impaled and were able to relay their pain and horror to those passing by.
It was believed that the stories of Vlad's victims living through the initial...entry...was an exaggeration until recently when the correct path for the second pole was determined. Apparently the victims died when the pole had passed all the way through and out the mouth leaving the victim to choke to death on the pole that had entered their anus.
Vlad's version is far more effective at creating terror.
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posted on
06/22/2013 11:23:27 PM PDT
by
gnarledmaw
(Obama: Evincing a Design since 2009)
To: gnarledmaw
I believe GOYA drew an impaling in his DISASTERS OF WAR series of drawings.
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posted on
06/23/2013 7:32:28 AM PDT
by
Ruy Dias de Bivar
(Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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