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Is this a sufficient reaction from the Southern Baptist Convention or should they have recommended that every SBC church completely sever ties with the Boy Scouts?

I'm especially interested in what people who are members of an SBC church think about this approach.

1 posted on 06/12/2013 9:04:28 PM PDT by Rashputin
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Wife and I are battling with this.. Kid loves it but.. We might let him finish off cub scouts and move on to something else.

Church we met in has told our pack we won’t be welcome much longer and to start looking for a “friendly” building to meet in.

I might be in Minnesota but I’m in the 6th.. About as red as you can get in MN.


2 posted on 06/12/2013 9:07:34 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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I’m a member of a SB church.

I am very disappointed. Not surprised, just disappointed.

I am motivated at this point to just go find a church that has the gonads to actually stand up and do something instead of issuing shallow condemnations.

They might as well have said “we’re ok with it.”


3 posted on 06/12/2013 9:09:53 PM PDT by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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People who parse and excuse deserve what happens to their kids. Their waffling brings that on them. It will be their fault for helping push the lib agenda.


4 posted on 06/12/2013 9:10:09 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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5 posted on 06/12/2013 9:13:06 PM PDT by narses
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I guess the SBC doesn’t want to give up that Gay Lobby money either. The SBC has been leaning left for more than 40 years, guess they have finally arrived.

I gave up on them when they changed their tract literature to indicate that a young girl conceived not a Virgin conceive, when discussing the story of Mary. That was almost 4o years ago.

6 posted on 06/12/2013 9:15:24 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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This is baloney. Boy Scouts are boys. They don’t need to be exposed to adult horsehockey and debauchery.


8 posted on 06/12/2013 9:17:41 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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I am not a member of the SBC, but I am a member of the LC-MS, which is a conservative Lutheran denomination. It is struggling with this matter, and I fear that it, too, will come out with a lame statement similar to the one issued by the SBC. It is an effort not to offend anyone, and the fantasy that it will all go away. It would be refreshing for one of these churchocrats to have the gonads to tell it like it is.
10 posted on 06/12/2013 9:33:13 PM PDT by Nemoque
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Is this a sufficient reaction from the Southern Baptist Convention or should they have recommended that every SBC church completely sever ties with the Boy Scouts? I'm especially interested in what people who are members of an SBC church think about this approach.

While I'm not unhappy with what was said, I definitely sympathise with everyone who is unhappy about what wasn't said (i.e. an emphatic and direct recommendation/condemnation). We didn't get more IMO because of the non-hierarchical nature of the SBC itself. The Convention doesn't demand obedience or dictate policy to the member churches, therefore it would be highly improper (to say the least) for it to issue a demand or requirement against the membership.

If you look at the exit polling in the last ten years, the SBC has proven itself to be a reliable voting bloc re conservative issues (not overwhelming, but far better than many Protestant bodies), I think their ecclesial structure has worked pretty well, and has helped them to be on the right side of social issues.

Thanks for posting this thread, Rashputin!

11 posted on 06/12/2013 9:36:19 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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It was an even better resolution.

They asked for the top leadership of the Boy Scouts to resign.

Time to fight back.


13 posted on 06/12/2013 10:27:12 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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I'm SB and I'm definitely disappointed at the response.

It's as though those voting to not sever ties are saying, "deny the sin, embrace the sinner, lest I be called a bigot!"

This tactic, like that of the BSA, will only be labeled bigotry anyway by the homosexual activists. Give them an inch, they demand the whole block!

14 posted on 06/12/2013 10:28:33 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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Read the resolution.

They pretty much urged members to cut ties and move to Royal Rangers.


15 posted on 06/12/2013 10:29:30 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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I am a member of a local SBC and a church goer, but for how much longer I’m not sure. Sunday I noticed the music yeller has a piercing across one eyebrow.
Some teens wear short short shorts to Church. There is no longer dress codes nor ruler nor respect for God, so I am not surprised the Boy Scouts are still okay. They might be using the ladies bathroom, I am not sure.
It is hard to remember when people had respect for things holy.
We even had candles at Sunday Service. Never have seen that before.


16 posted on 06/12/2013 10:31:56 PM PDT by Ramonne
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Why Christ did warn to ‘Remember Lot's wife’. Seems few Christians ever get around to reading that warning. Taking a stronger stand might get religious tax policy stripped. And some are very much in approval of rendering up to Caesar his first.
19 posted on 06/12/2013 10:52:27 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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They’re a convention not a rigid hierarchy. They called for the entire leadership of the BSA to resign, not exactly weak tea there. They strongly encouraged any of their membership who didn’t separate themselves to work from within to change this.


27 posted on 06/13/2013 3:08:40 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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I grew up in a Southern Baptist Church. Besides all the current issues, I've witnessed the SBC growing weak in other areas over decades. They have remained steadfast in doctrine, while compromising in practice. The latest discussion to change their title is just one instance of trying to "market" themselves to the world. Churches under this affiliation are already doing this, removing "baptist" from their names to seem more palatable. I also believe that their election of the first black convention president, although qualified, was also motivated by the "me too" marketing attitude.

While they've disfellowshipped a few churches for compromising on homosexuality (University Baptist, Austin, TX and Broadway Baptist, Fort Worth, TX) I don't see this happening as much in the future. Meeting with rabid, unrepentant homosexual activists at last year's convention was a horrible mistake, and marks a softening in their stance on the issue.

33 posted on 06/20/2013 12:56:20 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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