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SBC doesn’t call for Boy Scout exodus
ABPNews ^ | Wednesday June 12, 2013 | Bob Allen

Posted on 06/12/2013 9:04:27 PM PDT by Rashputin

SBC doesn’t call for Boy Scout exodus

A highly anticipated resolution condemning the Boy Scouts’ new membership policy affirms churches and individuals that sever ties, while calling for greater engagement by those that don’t.

By Bob Allen

The Southern Baptist Convention stopped short of urging churches to sever ties with the Boy Scouts of America in a June 11 resolution condemning the organization’s recent decision to drop its ban on Scouts who are openly gay.

The non-binding resolution expresses “continued opposition to and disappointment in the decision of the Boy Scouts of America to change its membership policy” and called for the removal of Scout leaders who pushed for the policy change.

It affirms “the right of all families and churches prayerfully to assess their continued relationship with the BSA” and expresses “support for those churches and families that as a matter of conscience can no longer be part of the Scouting family.”

Meanwhile it encourages churches and families “that seek to remain in the Boy Scouts to impact as many boys as possible with the life-changing gospel of Jesus Christ.”

The resolution urges churches that choose to end sponsorship of Scout units to continue ministering to boys by expanding the Royal Ambassador ministry, “a distinctively Southern Baptist missions organization to develop godly young men.”

It also cites “well-founded concern that the current executive leadership of the BSA, along with certain board members, may utilize this membership policy change as merely the first step toward future approval of homosexual leaders in the Scouts.”


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: baptist; boyscouts; homosexualagenda; religion; sbc
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Is this a sufficient reaction from the Southern Baptist Convention or should they have recommended that every SBC church completely sever ties with the Boy Scouts?

I'm especially interested in what people who are members of an SBC church think about this approach.

1 posted on 06/12/2013 9:04:28 PM PDT by Rashputin
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To: Rashputin

Wife and I are battling with this.. Kid loves it but.. We might let him finish off cub scouts and move on to something else.

Church we met in has told our pack we won’t be welcome much longer and to start looking for a “friendly” building to meet in.

I might be in Minnesota but I’m in the 6th.. About as red as you can get in MN.


2 posted on 06/12/2013 9:07:34 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Rashputin

I’m a member of a SB church.

I am very disappointed. Not surprised, just disappointed.

I am motivated at this point to just go find a church that has the gonads to actually stand up and do something instead of issuing shallow condemnations.

They might as well have said “we’re ok with it.”


3 posted on 06/12/2013 9:09:53 PM PDT by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: Rashputin

People who parse and excuse deserve what happens to their kids. Their waffling brings that on them. It will be their fault for helping push the lib agenda.


4 posted on 06/12/2013 9:10:09 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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5 posted on 06/12/2013 9:13:06 PM PDT by narses
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To: Rashputin
I guess the SBC doesn’t want to give up that Gay Lobby money either. The SBC has been leaning left for more than 40 years, guess they have finally arrived.

I gave up on them when they changed their tract literature to indicate that a young girl conceived not a Virgin conceive, when discussing the story of Mary. That was almost 4o years ago.

6 posted on 06/12/2013 9:15:24 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: itsahoot

My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen

Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.

Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.

Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.

Amen.


7 posted on 06/12/2013 9:16:24 PM PDT by narses
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To: Rashputin

This is baloney. Boy Scouts are boys. They don’t need to be exposed to adult horsehockey and debauchery.


8 posted on 06/12/2013 9:17:41 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Rashputin
I am not a member of the SBC, but I am a member of the LC-MS, which is a conservative Lutheran denomination. It is struggling with this matter, and I fear that it, too, will come out with a lame statement similar to the one issued by the SBC. It is an effort not to offend anyone, and the fantasy that it will all go away. It would be refreshing for one of these churchocrats to have the gonads to tell it like it is.
10 posted on 06/12/2013 9:33:13 PM PDT by Nemoque
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To: Rashputin
Is this a sufficient reaction from the Southern Baptist Convention or should they have recommended that every SBC church completely sever ties with the Boy Scouts? I'm especially interested in what people who are members of an SBC church think about this approach.

While I'm not unhappy with what was said, I definitely sympathise with everyone who is unhappy about what wasn't said (i.e. an emphatic and direct recommendation/condemnation). We didn't get more IMO because of the non-hierarchical nature of the SBC itself. The Convention doesn't demand obedience or dictate policy to the member churches, therefore it would be highly improper (to say the least) for it to issue a demand or requirement against the membership.

If you look at the exit polling in the last ten years, the SBC has proven itself to be a reliable voting bloc re conservative issues (not overwhelming, but far better than many Protestant bodies), I think their ecclesial structure has worked pretty well, and has helped them to be on the right side of social issues.

Thanks for posting this thread, Rashputin!

11 posted on 06/12/2013 9:36:19 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Nemoque

The slippery slope just got a new coat of wax. Now we just wait and see which churches give the BSA a nudge.


12 posted on 06/12/2013 9:39:15 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Your socialist beat our liberal AGAIN.)
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To: Rashputin

It was an even better resolution.

They asked for the top leadership of the Boy Scouts to resign.

Time to fight back.


13 posted on 06/12/2013 10:27:12 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Rashputin
I'm SB and I'm definitely disappointed at the response.

It's as though those voting to not sever ties are saying, "deny the sin, embrace the sinner, lest I be called a bigot!"

This tactic, like that of the BSA, will only be labeled bigotry anyway by the homosexual activists. Give them an inch, they demand the whole block!

14 posted on 06/12/2013 10:28:33 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Rashputin

Read the resolution.

They pretty much urged members to cut ties and move to Royal Rangers.


15 posted on 06/12/2013 10:29:30 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Rashputin

I am a member of a local SBC and a church goer, but for how much longer I’m not sure. Sunday I noticed the music yeller has a piercing across one eyebrow.
Some teens wear short short shorts to Church. There is no longer dress codes nor ruler nor respect for God, so I am not surprised the Boy Scouts are still okay. They might be using the ladies bathroom, I am not sure.
It is hard to remember when people had respect for things holy.
We even had candles at Sunday Service. Never have seen that before.


16 posted on 06/12/2013 10:31:56 PM PDT by Ramonne
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To: Nemoque
I was a member of a LC-MS church most of my life and we had a large block of German and German heritage folks who would regularly lobby to have the church leave the MS over various issues and join, as I recall, WELS which they claimed was even more conservative.

In my experience there were always a good number of people who felt like withdrawing from any organization that went off the rails would a form of surrender. Even some of the most conservative folks often argued that that we should stay a part of this or that to be a burr under their saddle.

Everything seemed to take about five times as long to resolve as it should have because even a good many conservative people didn't want to seem like they weren't willing to listen to both sides. We usually ended up with something that didn't please anyone but wasn't so distasteful to anyone that they'd leave the congregation over it.

17 posted on 06/12/2013 10:48:43 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

So you think it’s fine.

Urging is sufficient then.


18 posted on 06/12/2013 10:50:13 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin
Why Christ did warn to ‘Remember Lot's wife’. Seems few Christians ever get around to reading that warning. Taking a stronger stand might get religious tax policy stripped. And some are very much in approval of rendering up to Caesar his first.
19 posted on 06/12/2013 10:52:27 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
IMHO, churches need to be tax exempt but they don't need to be a 501(c) corporation.

The current wave of “tax the churches” for the good of the churches stuff is the same sort of "ground swell" twisted propaganda that got the 17th Amendment passed “for the good of the people” when in reality that Amendment eliminates the Senate as the Constitution created it by installing a new, unconstitutional, “Senator” who represents national interests rather than the voters who the Senator.

There seems to be a lot of the old turn of the century progressive agenda being repackaged and spread around in ways that make it sound conservative unless you think through what the consequences will really be once the changes are in effect.

JMHO

20 posted on 06/12/2013 11:09:28 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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