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Pope Urged to Declare Islam a Peaceful Religion
cnsnews ^ | June 11 2013 | Patrick Goodenough

Posted on 06/11/2013 6:36:47 AM PDT by joygrace

(CNSNews.com) – Seven years after Sunni Islam’s foremost institution severed dialogue with the Vatican over remarks by Pope Benedict XVI, the Cairo-based Al-Azhar wants the new pontiff to open the door to resuming interfaith discourse by declaring Islam to be a peaceful religion.

The proposal that Pope Francis make such a public declaration prompted Coptic Christian advocates to suggest that Al-Azhar’s grand imam instead denounce Muslim violence against Copts in Egypt.

Established in the 10th century, Al-Azhar is regarded as the top seat of learning in Sunni Islam. The suggestion for a papal gesture came from grand imam Ahmed al-Tayyeb’s diplomatic envoy, Mahmoud Abdel Gawad.

“The problems that we had were not with the Vatican but with the former pope,” weekend Arab media reports quoted Gawad as telling the Italian newspaper Il Messaggero.

“Francis is a new pope. We are expecting a step forward from him,” he said. “If in one of his addresses he were to declare that Islam is a peaceful religion, that Muslims are not looking for war or violence, that would be progress in itself.”

Gawad suggested further that should the pope visit Egypt he could also visit Al-Azhar. “At that point, relations and dialogue would be restored immediately.”

(Coptic Pope Tawadros II visited the Vatican in May and invited Pope Francis to visit Egypt; the Vatican said the invitation will be taken up although no dates have been announced.)

Reacting to the proposals by al-Tayyab’s envoy, Voice of the Copts president Ashraf Ramelah suggested the grand imam look closer to home.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Islam; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholic; christian; coptic; egypt; francis; islam; muslim; muslimbrotherhood; pope; sunni; vatican
There is nothing peaceful about what is happeing to Christians in Egypt, Syria, etc. The Pope needs to be the voice of the women and children who are being tortured and killed in these Muslim countries.

When will he speak directly to the Muslims? I know it won't make a difference to the Muslims but it may give comfort to the vulnerable Copts in Egypt and Christians in Syria. They need his prayers.

1 posted on 06/11/2013 6:36:47 AM PDT by joygrace
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To: joygrace

Of course! ANY religion is peaceful when you have to cajole, exclaim, coerce, extort, threaten, castigate, or bewitch another religious functionary to state such.


2 posted on 06/11/2013 6:39:34 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: joygrace
...wants the new pontiff to open the door to resuming interfaith discourse by declaring Islam to be a peaceful religion.

IIRC lying is a sin. So no, I don't think that's going to happen...

3 posted on 06/11/2013 6:40:00 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: joygrace

Islam is NOT a religion. It’s an oppressive ideology. Besides, the Pope doesn’t fib!!


4 posted on 06/11/2013 6:42:25 AM PDT by albie
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To: joygrace

Mohammed was a child rapist and murderer.

Therefore, Islam is a peaceful religion.


5 posted on 06/11/2013 6:43:23 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (TSARNAEVs escaped PRISM. Can you?)
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To: joygrace

“Pope Urged to Declare Islam a Peaceful Religion”

Under threat of death, no doubt...


6 posted on 06/11/2013 6:43:24 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: joygrace

I respect this pope.

That’ll disappear if he describes Islam as anything other than the despicable religion it is.


7 posted on 06/11/2013 6:43:26 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: joygrace

Please, Brother Francis, we beg you:

Tell the muzzies to stick it where the sun don’t shine.

Pope Francis is a smart cookie. He’ll come up with an appropriate response. None of this “I have to suck up to the muzzies or they’ll kill all the remaining Christians under their rule” nonsense.


8 posted on 06/11/2013 6:45:57 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: joygrace

Do we need a declaration that Jainism is a peaceful religion? Judaism? Buddhism? Quaker/Amish/Mormonism? I can’t imagine why any peaceful religion would want such a declaration.


9 posted on 06/11/2013 6:46:58 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: joygrace
How about the Pope stating:

"We will declare Islam to be a peaceful religion just as soon as they can spend one year free of violence against other religions, declarations of supremacy over other political systems and shooting civil wars among their various factions.

Said designation will be renewed annually so long as said conditions are met."

I'm willing to bet that not more than 72 hours would pass before their would be bloody riots in the Muslim street in protest.

. . . which the Pope probably understands better than most of us and, thus, is unwilling to make such a declaration.

10 posted on 06/11/2013 6:50:30 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: joygrace

Islam is a peaceful religion. Just ask The `’Martyrs of Otranto”, 813 Italians who were slain in the southern Italian city in 1480 for defying demands by Turkish invaders to renounce Christianity (and become moslems).

And that is just ONE example of the peaceful religion of Islam.


11 posted on 06/11/2013 6:54:50 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: joygrace


12 posted on 06/11/2013 6:56:15 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: joygrace

Islamic “peace” is different than Christian “peace”

Islamic “peace” means universal submission to Islam. There are few restrictions on how this submission is accomplished.

Christian peace is an individual’s knowledge that God loves us so much that he sent Jesus to die for our sins.

I think the Pope is aware of this difference.


13 posted on 06/11/2013 6:58:45 AM PDT by kidd
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To: joygrace

Contrary to the sentiments expressed on this thread so far, I can indeed confirm that Islam is, indeed a religion of peace, inasmuch as its followers seek peace.

Where, it must be said, “peace” means that condition when all infidels have finally been either killed or converted. They are indeed seeking to obtain that sort of peace.

Admittedly, the word doesn’t quite mean the same thing in standard American English, although they don’t exactly go out of their way to point out the difference. But, admissions can be found.


14 posted on 06/11/2013 7:02:24 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: joygrace
Pope Urged to Declare Islam a Peaceful Religion,,,, or else . .
this could get interesting
15 posted on 06/11/2013 7:09:50 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: Da Coyote

So do I. We need to pray for him. Remember Satan tempted Christ in the desert, at the beginning of his ministry.


16 posted on 06/11/2013 7:20:36 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: joygrace

Q: If you called a tail a leg, how many legs would a dog have?

A: Four — calling a tail a leg doesn’t make it one.


17 posted on 06/11/2013 7:51:01 AM PDT by Mack the knife
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To: All

I think it’s quite a pieceful religion, wherever they go, they leave everything in pieces.


18 posted on 06/11/2013 8:07:05 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (It wasn't this cold before global warming)
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To: joygrace

Islam is a pack of barbarians pretending to be pro-God.


19 posted on 06/11/2013 8:10:31 AM PDT by RingerSIX (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccine that they offer down at our Church.)
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To: coloradan; kidd

Excelent points you both make. This “apples” and “oranges” distinction might be why so many non-muslims believe that Islam is peaceful.


20 posted on 06/11/2013 8:20:06 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: joygrace

"So let it be written. So let it be done."


21 posted on 06/11/2013 8:28:08 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: joygrace

Islam is from the devil.


22 posted on 06/11/2013 10:19:16 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: joygrace

They are trying to push bad fruit by saying it is good.


23 posted on 06/11/2013 10:23:48 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: joygrace

To declare Islam to be a peaceful religion is to declare that war is peace.

By “peace” Islam has destroyed many.


24 posted on 06/11/2013 10:31:51 AM PDT by istandwithsarah (Game on!)
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To: joygrace

“Declare us peaceful or we’ll kill you!”


25 posted on 06/11/2013 10:32:28 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: joygrace

Pope Francis should announce a new Crusade.

That will get their attention.


26 posted on 06/11/2013 10:35:03 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: joygrace

“Muslim men are promised 72 young virgins for perpetual enjoyment. For the sake of propriety, I won’t include the quotes, but this all is right there in the Qur’an, in Surat 37:40-48, 44:51-55, 52:17-20, 55:56-58, 70-77, 56:7-40, and 78:31. Additionally, sodomy with young boys plays a role in the Muslim paradise (Surat 52:24, 56:17, and 76:19)”

From one of Breitbart’s boards.


27 posted on 06/11/2013 4:43:26 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: RandallFlagg

Why does an Islamic cleric need a non-believer(non-muslim) to declare is islam is peaceful, didn’t allah say this anywhere in the Koran... their ONLY authority?


28 posted on 06/12/2013 5:41:05 AM PDT by SIRTRIS
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To: albie
Islam is NOT a religion. It’s an oppressive ideology.

Islam is NOT a religion. It’s an oppressive ideology theocracy.

Saudi Arabia maintains religious courts for all aspects of law and has religious police to maintain social compliance.

Very oppressive is an understatement.

29 posted on 06/12/2013 5:49:38 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: TexasRepublic
Yes...they have Achmed...


30 posted on 06/12/2013 5:51:58 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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