Posted on 06/05/2013 9:59:54 AM PDT by Petrosius
Orwell left Spain a very disillusioned man; he realized how much propaganda they’d been fed (told of great victories where there had been no batlle at all, and the complete cover-up of disastrous defeats); he’s lucky he got out alive. People like Orwell & Hemingway must have felt like fools as they aged; they’d certainly been played for fools.
Many of those on the left that took part in the murders of 1936 were never prosecuted for them (there was an exodus into France late in the war), and once the war was over many that had fled actually returned. There was an orderly process after the war for dealing with such things, and it involved trials and such; there was no mass retribution.
The terror carried out by civilians was almost exclusively by the left; the Falange itself was actually a small party. Once the war started I don’t count most people killed as “civilian deaths”; the left relied on civilians for its army (since most of the army & police sided with the right).
Orwell I think did. Hemingway I’m not so sure.
“True, the generals killed some multiple of those killed by the commies. This was mostly because they won and had the leisure to slaughter their opponents without the drudgery of having to fight them.”
This is a myth which is easily spread about the Spanish Civil War because Americans were deliberately kept in the dark about it (they wouldn’t have fought in Europe in WWII if they understood what happened in Spain, and they certainly would have understood why French troops fought Americans in North Africa in 1942 if they knew what happened in Spain). If you ever have a chance to read Franco’s speech when he agreed to host American bases in Spain during the Cold War, it is very telling; the US reached out to him in the 1950s when they realized what he knew in 1936.
The best thing about the last few Popes naming these martyrs is that they can give names, dates, manner of death, etc. for each one; the commies and their useful idiots in the West have no such lists of Franco’s alledged civilian victims after the war.
See # 24; estimates are created by those with an agenda. Spain didn’t close its borders after the war like the Soviet Union; people freely came and went. If there was a list of victims of Franco, we’d be seeing it; the Church has been constantly adding names and faces to the list of the anarchists and communist during 1936, and they should be able to keep going for decades to come.
“Orwell I think did. Hemingway I’m not so sure.”
Hemingway did the right thing when he saw what the other leftists he shilled for ravage Cuba; maybe that regret was what got to him.
Nor do we have lists of the tens of millions killed by the commies. But like Generalissimo Franco, they're still dead.
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