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QUAERITUR: Sister starts Mass and Father shows up around the Offertory
What Does The Prayer Really Say ^ | 5/6/2013 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 05/06/2013 5:09:03 PM PDT by markomalley

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1 posted on 05/06/2013 5:09:03 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

What “series of talks” could be so important that it would make a priest late to a Mass he was putatively offering? Disgusting. Poor parishioners.


2 posted on 05/06/2013 5:23:43 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: markomalley
Read your Bible. If your church does not take the Bible seriously, find one that does.

Men and women have different roles in God's economy. If you don't like it, you'll have to take it up with Him. But He isn't likely to change it to ameliorate feminist sensitivities.


3 posted on 05/06/2013 5:31:22 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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OK, here’s my FWIW. When I was deployed to Uzbekistan 2003-04, the Catholic chaplain was called away to Bagram for several weeks as he was the HQ CENTCOM chief of chaplains. Before leaving Father consecrated enough hosts for Holy Communion & left me in charge.

Each Sunday he was gone I conducted a service which consisted of the readings & Gospel, and included about twenty minutes of my own thoughts about the Scripture readings which I had prepared the night before. Then I distributed Communion, and with a few additional words wished everyone a productive & safe week. Soldiers picked up their rifles & shook my hand on the way out of the chapel tent.

It was all I could do for my fellow Catholics or anyone else who cared to attend.


4 posted on 05/06/2013 5:50:05 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: markomalley

~facepalm~

I wonder where this is...


5 posted on 05/06/2013 5:55:15 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (In te, Domine, speravi: non confundar in aeternum.)
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To: elcid1970

Are you female?

The Bible does not say that the pastor must be a seminary graduate. Only that he must be a “he”.


6 posted on 05/06/2013 5:55:19 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Westbrook

I don’t know about the Greek or Latin, but he in English a few years ago was a pronoun that could mean “he” or “she”.

“She” always meant a female, but “He” meant the gender was not specified and could be either.

The language police were attempting to change that over the last few years. Don’t know if they succeeded.


7 posted on 05/06/2013 6:03:18 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: elcid1970

Regardless of your sex, I doubt your chaplain had the authority to let you preach. It’s a seductive temptation, but you should have refused.


8 posted on 05/06/2013 6:05:54 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: wideawake

Thank God (and my bishop) for our parish priests.


9 posted on 05/06/2013 6:15:34 PM PDT by stop_fascism (Love your country, but never trust its government - R.A. Heinlein)
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To: elcid1970

tHANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE.!

the consecration of hosts is done by a priest. Many nuns go to the hospitals to give communion to sick people.


10 posted on 05/06/2013 6:27:28 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie; elcid1970
Yes. I think this falls under viaticum which is distributing the Sacrament to shut-ins. You did this under the direction of your priest. In fact, the origins of the tabernacle (the dove shaped pyx) are for just this situation: to bring the sacrament to far flung places without church or priest.
11 posted on 05/06/2013 6:37:30 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: elcid1970
That's excellent.

You fulfilled the role of extraordinary Eucharistic minister quite admirably.

Thank you for everything you did.

12 posted on 05/06/2013 6:44:33 PM PDT by wideawake
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13 posted on 05/06/2013 6:47:00 PM PDT by narses
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To: Oratam
It was exactly right.

He did not have the faculties to offer Mass or consecrate the Eucharist, and he did not act as if he did.

He kept the Sacrament safe, and communicated it to the faithful in a dignified and worthy manner - in extreme circumstances no less.

14 posted on 05/06/2013 6:50:18 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: elcid1970
You were not offering the Mass, nor were you pretending to do so.

In the article above, the miscreants in charge are pretending to offer the Mass.

You were not defrauding your fellow Catholics.

What the miscreants are doing is fraudulent.

15 posted on 05/06/2013 6:51:40 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Romulus; Westbrook

Yes, I am male & don’t know what that question should even come up. And please quote canon law by which I should have refused my priest’s request to minister in his absence. I have been commissioned as a lector and as a eucharistic minister since 1975, for what it is worth.

If you’re suggesting I shouldn’t have delivered a Sunday homily, again tell me why not. Fact is, I was asked by the soldiers to do so, as I was 55 at the time if that makes any difference.


16 posted on 05/06/2013 7:02:15 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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Sir,
Let me encourage you to read your Bible.

It’s clear that the Lord wants men to occupy the ministerial roles in His church.

It is also clear that a seminary degree is not necessary, either, since most of the apostles were just fishermen. The Lord Himself was not a seminary graduate, but a carpenter.

Your role as acting minister, as far as I can tell, is Biblical.

The woman acting as such is not.


17 posted on 05/06/2013 8:20:47 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie; Oratam; wideawake

Thank you for your kind words. At the time, in Uzbekistan, I felt blessed to preach to my fellow soldiers in my humble way from the weekly readings of the Word of God.

I also had the pleasure of seeing two of our local interpreters, two Muslim Uzbek women, heading to the chapel tent for Christian worship. They later informed me by email that they had become Christians. Our U.S. camp was there for only four years 2001-2005. What a blessing to know that our Christian presence had such good effect.


18 posted on 05/06/2013 8:31:56 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: elcid1970
& left me in charge.

Were you deputed as an acolyte?

and included about twenty minutes of my own thoughts about the Scripture readings which I had prepared the night before.

You didn't call that a homily, did you?

19 posted on 05/06/2013 8:53:43 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: wideawake
extraordinary minister of Holy Communion.

A Eucharistic Minister is a validly ordained Priest, only.

20 posted on 05/06/2013 8:56:05 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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