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To: Texas Fossil

Actually, the Church of England should be thrown out and return to the One, True, Catholic, Apostolic Church. The Theology is near perfect (pre-Vatican II, of course) -—the Catholic Church never “evolved” on Jesus’s idea of sodomy and divorce and sex outside of marriage, much less abortion and contraception.

And that idea of King Henry the VIII (who just wanted to validate serial polygamy) is based on pure evil (Satanism).

The Church of England was founded on heresy-—and can not be moral. There was no “God Given Right” to divorce and kill his “ex” wives and have sex validated with numerous women. You can never use human beings as a commodity to be discarded-—and the Catholic Church is the only Church which is consistent on all life issues—and aligned with Natural Law Theory (Science).

You obviously are not a fan of “Leftist Revisited” which actually argues the merits of hierarchy and the need for such a system where uniformity and heresy is nearly (if not) impossible. It is why the Protestant Churches have “evolved” to what Bonhoeffer stated in the 30’s when he visited Rockefeller’s church in New York City——”Religionless Christianity”. The Catholic Canon has been virtually unchanged for over 400 years. There is no “flaw” in their “thinking” as I have studied the Canon. It is pure genius and Common Sense, as G. K. Chesterton stated many times (The man in the 20th century with the most Common Sense).

Interesting that you think individuals can decide their own “Right and Wrong” or interpret “Good and Evil” without the thousands of years of debate and an intense study of history and ideas. (Philosophy/Theology). Return to the “tribal” cultures which never resulted in the “Age of Reason” and the Renaissance? Machiavelli would laugh at that “thought”. Actually, that leads to anarchy every time and only ignorant masses to be controlled by the evil.

Organization of society (as with all animals) must contain an order (hierarchy). It is the Design of Nature. Hierarchy is the most efficient system-—ask any CEO.

With hierarchy (if not corrupted)-—merit-—talent is released and rewarded and uniqueness and excellence is rewarded. All cultures flourish when structured where “roles” are different according to ability.

Radical egalitarianism erases every quality that makes human beings “unique” and “special” (e-quality)-—and dehumanizes everyone. Only a culture where certain people can “rise” to the top-—like cream-—can flourish. Even Athens—who had the first Democracy knew the evil of non-structured societies where everyone is treated the same.

There are no two people who are “equal” . No such thing. So “hierarchies” always occur “naturally” whether you want it or NOT-—so a system which allows such a structure-—could be called the most Natural thing of all-—which, of course, is what the Catholic Church “thinks”.

I think they are correct, like always.

Not allowing their children to be raised “Catholic” is allowing their kids to be ignorant of the Truth.

I am a Monarchist myself, to a degree—although I think the Republic, which is a system which absorbed both Democracy and Monarchy-—is the most perfect for Freedom——when our Constitution and Bill of Rights are not thrown out.

BTW, traditions are necessary for the continuation of a culture. Without traditions, the children never learn about the past. Without knowledge of the past-—children will not “progress”-—they will regress.

Throwing out traditions is the Marxist concept-—so they can redesign human beings-—into this artificial world of no freedom where no one understands the history and past-—so they believe any lie they are told.

Only knowledge of history and the Classics/philosophies gives people the understanding of reality-—so they do not repeat the past. Monarchies create a timeline where history can be organized and understood. There is beauty and dignity in the system-—as long as they are moral human beings (devout Catholics). (Philosopher/King concept goes back to Socrates and he was one profound thinker).

Technically, monarchies are always oligarchies in reality.


40 posted on 04/27/2013 8:37:46 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie
My Baptist Brethren do not claim descent from the Catholic Church. Nor do my friends up the street at the Church Of Christ.

Nor do we endorse the junk theology you mentioned.

You waste the long cut and paste. I will not read them. Never understood how your friends want to argue with people who don't share your opinions. You will never “convince” anyone that way. Only annoy.

43 posted on 04/27/2013 8:47:11 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: savagesusie
Historically The Roman Catholic Church had always allowed monarchs to divorce their spou=ses for reasons of dynastic succession, or even just because.

The only problem at that time was the Pope was prisoner of Katherine's of Aragon nephew, and so was forced to refudiate the divorce.

50 posted on 04/28/2013 2:14:11 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (RIP Chrissie Amphlett.)
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To: savagesusie

“And that idea of King Henry the VIII (who just wanted to validate serial polygamy) is based on pure evil (Satanism).”

Please. The Catholic Church had a political beef with Henry VIII, not a religious one. They routinely sanctioned serial polygamy for monarchs (maybe not always to the level of Henry, but that’s splitting hairs).

They wanted to deny him a legitimate heir as much as he wanted one.

The Catholic Church did not deny Henry sanctioned serial polygamy out of any moral principle. That wasn’t how the world, or the Catholic Church worked at the time.


58 posted on 04/28/2013 5:54:31 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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