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A Boy's Life with Unisex Scouts
Public Discourse ^ | April 23rd, 2013 | Anthony Esolen

Posted on 04/23/2013 10:00:06 AM PDT by newheart

The Boy Scouts are en route to holding that there is nothing to being a boy, and nothing to the boy’s becoming a man; they might as well be the Unisex Scouts, as they are in Canada, where the scouting movement has collapsed.

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TOPICS: General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; feminazism; homosexualagenda; scouts; unisex

1 posted on 04/23/2013 10:00:06 AM PDT by newheart
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To: newheart
Androgynous Scouts?


2 posted on 04/23/2013 10:06:04 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (All observant Muslims want to kill you. If they don't, they are not really Muslims.)
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To: newheart

Well, I am sure collapse is the overall goal.

Like marriage. They want to destroy that too.

They want to destroy anything that is good.


3 posted on 04/23/2013 10:07:16 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: newheart

Well, as Tom Lehrer famously sang:

Be prepared! and be careful not to do
Your good deeds when there’s no one watching you.
If you’re looking for adventure of a
New and different kind,
And you come across a girl scout who is
Similarly inclined,
Don’t be nervous, don’t be flustered, don’t be scared.
Be prepared!


4 posted on 04/23/2013 10:08:26 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: newheart
The Boy Scouts are en route to holding that there is nothing to being a boy

Well, I HAD heard that a pig is a rat is a boy is a dog....

5 posted on 04/23/2013 10:08:48 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: newheart

OTOH, I’d also heard that boys were made of snips and snails and puppy dog tails....


6 posted on 04/23/2013 10:09:31 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Pat?


7 posted on 04/23/2013 10:10:14 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: newheart

If they allow homosexuals in the boy scouts they may as well shut down-—It’s over.


8 posted on 04/23/2013 10:10:29 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: newheart

“Boy scouting” is becoming “scouting for boys”.


9 posted on 04/23/2013 10:11:20 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: SandRat

ping


10 posted on 04/23/2013 10:11:30 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Don't believe any rumors in Washington, DC until they are officially denied.)
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To: newheart
nothing to the boy’s becoming a man; they might as well be the Unisex Scouts, as they are in Canada, where the scouting movement has collapsed.

Wow.
Who could have seen that coming?

Since the perverts have forced the institution to "join" them, I will have nothing to do with them in any form. Guess they'll just have to exist as another branch of the dystopic government. Sort of another welfare program for the indolent pervs, like PBS.

Good luck to them.

11 posted on 04/23/2013 10:11:31 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Persevero

You are right. In addition, the Sodomites are waiting for untrammeled access to their created 12 year old pleasure boys. Once the Sodomites obtain their goal of lowering the age of consent the harvest will begin.


12 posted on 04/23/2013 10:12:03 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Uncle Miltie

There are some things that you’re not old enough to understand just yet.—Atticus Finch


13 posted on 04/23/2013 10:13:49 AM PDT by newheart (The worst thing the Left ever did was to convince the world it was not a religion.)
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To: Albion Wilde
Just finished read the whole thing.
14 posted on 04/23/2013 10:14:57 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: newheart

Esolen is simply the best, the absolute best, Christian traditionalist writer available today. This is one of his all-time best pieces. It defines manliness superbly. And it shows, sadly, the abyss into which we are descending.

Every father and every mother should read this.


15 posted on 04/23/2013 10:17:10 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: newheart
Almost every single time I read a reflection by Anthony Esolen, I think, "These are the wisest and most compelling words ever written on this subject." He's a gift to humanity.

Thank you for posting this.

16 posted on 04/23/2013 10:17:35 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Vive la différence!)
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To: Houghton M.
Esolen is simply the best,

Definitely Top Ten.

17 posted on 04/23/2013 10:18:24 AM PDT by newheart (The worst thing the Left ever did was to convince the world it was not a religion.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
First Things, Crisis Magazine, Touchstone Magazine and thepublicdiscourse.com keep his work out there. Always worth the read.
18 posted on 04/23/2013 10:24:22 AM PDT by newheart (The worst thing the Left ever did was to convince the world it was not a religion.)
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To: newheart

My question is what good can come of it? The only thing I can think would be that perhaps providing an opportunity for some young forming minds to see that being a young man with male interests can be enjoyable. Perhaps a rare opportunity for many of them.


19 posted on 04/23/2013 10:25:27 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: newheart
That is a great article. Thank you for posting it.

Sad. That we have reached the point where this view of things must be explained.

20 posted on 04/23/2013 10:33:34 AM PDT by rlmorel ("We'll drink to good health for them that have it coming." Boss Spearman in Open Range)
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To: Portcall24
My question is what good can come of it?

I am opposed to the BSA's apparent decision. I have a son who is 6 months to a year away from becoming an Eagle Scout, and it is disturbing to see the organization go this direction.

On the other hand, just maybe, it might be that a kid who thinks he might be homosexual could change his mind after being around real boys. I'm inclined to think that the question of same sex attraction comes more out of ambivalence rather than actual desire, until the propensity is reinforced through conditioning.

So, as long as homosexual leadership is prohibited, there may be some good come from it. But I suspect that will go by the wayside after the first "homosexual" Eagle Scout reaches age 18 and demands to be part of leadership.

21 posted on 04/23/2013 10:34:36 AM PDT by newheart (The worst thing the Left ever did was to convince the world it was not a religion.)
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To: newheart

Excellent article!

Do not believe this is done deal. There is a good chance, a very good chance that the resolution will not pass. There is still time to effect the voters. If you are in the BSA, the time to act is NOW. Find out who represents your District and stay on them to vote NO.


22 posted on 04/23/2013 10:39:06 AM PDT by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: JWinNC

The Gaystapo’s goal is to eliminate the BSA and any ther organization that molds boys to become real men. It won’t stop with he BSA.


23 posted on 04/23/2013 10:48:05 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: newheart

Thank you. That is my point exactly. And I also share your concern. For any good to come of this exceptional leadership and a healthy amount of prayer will be required. And I expect one of the keys to leadership will be to instill a sense of all inclusivness among all of the youngsters.


24 posted on 04/23/2013 10:50:11 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: Uncle Miltie

Amazing! You must have let that stew inside for decades I bet. ;^)


25 posted on 04/23/2013 11:07:41 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Persevero

Of course. And replace the natural family with the state.


26 posted on 04/23/2013 11:11:31 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Persevero

That collapse takes a generation (which they have had) to erase concepts in small children-—it is why they removed words like “wife” and “husband” decades ago-—to normalize the idea of homosexual marriage. “Spouse” was injected so they can make men and women interchangeable to small children (Marxism). Same way they made “homosexual marriage” a rational concept to the young-—by programming that word everywhere on TV, in books, in news and especially in classrooms with agitprop like “Heather has two Mommies” and families comes in all shapes. This is a scientific lie and irrational but forced as truth to young children which twists any Logic that, by nature, they would get in real life situations that weren’t abusive or traumatized.

Repetitiion of ideas-—no matter how absurd like the oxymoron “homosexual” marriage which defiles the definition and twists the meaning to absurd lengths-—become “normal” when children are exposed to these “ideas” when forming their worldview in early childhood. Emotions make it “good” and Reason is killed. They become ideologues-—conditioned NOT to think.

Marxists understood since before Wittgenstein, that he who controls the “words” will control the culture and shape all perceptions in the masses. It is why they took control over the media and all major publications in the 30’s.

It is why zero wants three year olds in “day” care-—away from loving parental supervision (Christian worldview) which creates the ability to “Trust” in adults so that healthy long-term relationships (maturity) will occur.

Marxism needs everyone to distrust each other and hate other groups-—so all “education” does, since the Fabian John Dewey took over the schools, is label children-—group them-—to create disunity and suspicion because all immature (by age) children will “hate” differences because of the “herd instinct” in all children by nature. They like to be around others who are like themselves. It validates their conceptions of self. They can be “conditioned” in the Pavlovian sense-—to “think” anything is “Good” when they are under the age of Reason—7 and even then-—peer pressure can be used to make children “flip” and discard Christian Ethics for Satanic ethics of sodomy-—by using emotional coercion by the curricula used by “facilitators” in the classroom. These people are “change agents” who are programmed to destroy Christian Virtue in children (Charlotte Iserbyt/ BK Eakman.

What is learned in the “plastic” years of childhood becomes embedded-—like the little harem boys in Afghanistan-—they will never be able to “think” with Reason and Logic-—for their powerful emotions are tied to irrational concepts. As adults-—they can not “think” like a Christian. It is impossible. They can not “look” at men in the same way a Christian will look at men....their emotions of lust will be incited.

This is why it is diabolical to sexualize and destroy the innocence of children—understood by Christians and in Western Civ since Rousseau....any Sex Ed programs will destroy the normal sexual development of children—and fixate them in an immature stage....they will never “mature” unless extreme intervention occurs-—because their emotions are embedded with concepts.

No Fault divorce was created to get women in the workforce—away from children and forming their worldview. Cultural Marxists know that the transmission of “culture” is done by the loving family—but that creates independent, principled people who have a support system against the tyranny of the State——the ideology of parents will prevail unless the State gets them away from the parents.

To destroy the family, is to destroy the individual and support system against tyranny. Isolate and you get no resistance to tyranny.

That is why Germany does not allow “homeschooling”. They want the “goose steppers”. They understand child psychology and the importance of “shaping plastic minds”.


27 posted on 04/23/2013 11:16:03 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Portcall24
It's not about "good" coming from it. It's about destruction. Perverts must destroy good to be accepted. It's not even about equality. The cancer will grow and metastasize in all aspects of civil life to make it uncivil.

I've tried to explain to supporters that they would not like a gym teacher watching their son or daughter in the shower if they knew they were homosexual, but they have become so conditioned to this evil, they cannot even admit they wouldn't sacrifice their own child on Satan's alter. It's no different than homosexual pedophile priests, or NAMBLA, or John Wayne Gacey.

If you were homosexual, what motivation would you have to want to spend all your time with boy children? How many boys will be raped before we simpletons figure out that it's not healthy to place your child in a tent with a grown man that wants to rape him? I, as a heterosexual, would not be allowed to have sleep overs with your daughter, so why place your son in that position?

IMO, there will come a time, decades from now, where children adopted by homosexuals, will recount their abuse for years with no recourse. All you have to do to know something is wrong is notice the sex of their adoptee's . Men adopt boys and lesbian's adopt girls. Will we gasp when we find out about their abuse?

28 posted on 04/23/2013 11:19:13 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: newheart

Well said - my thoughts exactly. Let’s hope for the best.


29 posted on 04/23/2013 11:19:42 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: chuckles
IMO, there will come a time, decades from now, where children adopted by homosexuals, will recount their abuse for years with no recourse. All you have to do to know something is wrong is notice the sex of their adoptee's . Men adopt boys and lesbian's adopt girls. Will we gasp when we find out about their abuse?

I expect that by that time people will be so conditioned to abuse at all levels that they will hardly blink an eye. Kind of like what the muzzies do with their women now. It is so accepted that they just take if for granted. I do believe the responses here substantiate your position that the future holds a great deal of disappointment for many.

30 posted on 04/23/2013 11:25:41 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: newheart
There are Men & there are Boys!


31 posted on 04/23/2013 11:29:33 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Portcall24; newheart

Absolutely no good will come of this.

The homos activists will now make sure that the BSA do not just “allow” homosexuals, they will have to celebrate and promote homsexualism. And the very next step - already written into their playbook - is homo scout leaders. After, all the little faggots need grown up faggots for role models.

Mark my words.


32 posted on 04/23/2013 12:19:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

See my comment above.

Hoping for the best in many circumstances neutering any effective defense.

This is nothing short of utter disaster and the only sane thing to do is to start another similar organization with no sexual pervets allowed.

With no big money board of directors. Maybe faith based, with various churches and religions all on board. Either that or small local groups that can meet together regularly for camp outs and stuff.

The combination of “homosexuals” and “teenage/adolesent boys” is a recipe for absolute hell.


33 posted on 04/23/2013 12:22:37 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
That's why my daughter will never be a Girl Scout, but will join American Heritage Girls.
34 posted on 04/23/2013 3:00:44 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: newheart

QUEERING OF THE BOY SCOUTS
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd584.htm


35 posted on 04/23/2013 10:01:03 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Is there an American Heritage Boys?

If not, I bet there will be one quite soon!


36 posted on 04/23/2013 10:03:10 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: newheart

St. Geroge, patron of the Boy Scouts, please pray for them.


37 posted on 04/23/2013 10:06:59 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: TexasCajun

Those pictures of Reagan remind of the pictures of Bush whacking the brush out on his property.


38 posted on 04/23/2013 10:09:39 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SandRat
Just finished read the whole thing.

I thought you were the Scouts pingmaster. My mistake?

39 posted on 04/24/2013 11:58:19 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Don't believe any rumors in Washington, DC until they are officially denied.)
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To: newheart

Pedo Scouts and Commie Scouts and who knows what else


40 posted on 04/24/2013 12:00:13 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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