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To: markomalley
No sale, Francis.

Tradition does not trump Scripture. The testimony of history shows us what happens when a few are "entrusted" with biblical interpretation.

Francis, meet Roy Zuck, author, "Basic Bible Interpretation". It's everyone's responsibility.

2 posted on 04/12/2013 5:39:11 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Salvavida

Tradition preserves the same and constant interpretation. Tradition was commanded by scripture itself.

It prevents what happens when tradition is discounted and everyone can make up their own interpretations. As evidence consider the state of protestant theology in the US at present ( or Europe for that matter ). If you look at raw numbers well over 60% now teach either abortion or same sex marriage are perfectly ok and its growing rapidly.


3 posted on 04/12/2013 5:41:37 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: Salvavida
No sale, Francis. Tradition does not trump Scripture. The testimony of history shows us what happens when a few are "entrusted" with biblical interpretation. Francis, meet Roy Zuck, author, "Basic Bible Interpretation". It's everyone's responsibility. m

and we have 20,000 or so "denominations" to show how well that works....

9 posted on 04/12/2013 6:49:13 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: Salvavida
Hello, Salvavida,

I think you should evaluate "Tradition" in the light of what it actually means: that which has been handed on to us. This includes handed on in writing, handed on in oral preaching, and handed on by example.

Since this is the meaning, then the really important question is not "how was it handed on (preaching? writing? example?) but WHO handed it on.

If it was handed on by the Apostles, then it is past of the "treasury" of the Apostolic faith which we all must carefully observe.

St. Paul himself said that we should both heed his words (oral preaching), and be imitators of him --- his example.

1 Corinthians 4:16
Therefore I urge you to imitate me.

1 Thessalonians 1:6
You became imitators of us and of the Lord, for you welcomed the message in the midst of severe suffering with the joy given by the Holy Spirit.

1 Thessalonians 2:14
For you, brothers and sisters, became imitators of God’s churches in Judea, which are in Christ Jesus.

2 Thessalonians 3:9
We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help, but in order to offer ourselves as a model for you to imitate.

10 posted on 04/12/2013 6:51:36 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("He will come on that Day to judge the living and the dead, and the earth by fire.")
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To: Salvavida

So are you a member of the magesterium now? Or did you susddenly take over Pope Francis’ position?


19 posted on 04/12/2013 9:16:03 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvavida
The truth:

Catholic Scripture Study Bible - RSV Large Print Edition


"We are compelled to concede to the Papists
that they have the Word of God,
that we received it from them,
and that without them
we should have no knowledge of it at all."

~ Martin Luther



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47 posted on 04/13/2013 9:02:02 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvavida

Who is Zuck?

Never heard of him.....is he a Catolic writer?


86 posted on 04/13/2013 2:48:57 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvavida

“Basic Bible Interpretation...”

...results in absolute accuracy when it comes from the Holy Spirit. And you are correct...it has nothing to do with ‘Tradition’.

That all said, there may be many applications of Scripture, the written Word of God, but there is only one ‘interpretation’...That one interpretation does not come from any man, nor from any group of men, nor from ‘tradition’, but from God, via His Holy Spirit, speaking to us.


108 posted on 04/13/2013 7:59:37 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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