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To: YHAOS; Alamo-Girl; marron; xzins; hosepipe
Neither Jesus nor any of the twelve apostles could get a job in any self-respecting mainline church in America today; none of them had a degree from an accredited seminary.

Dear brother in Christ, to answer your question, "Are the problems confronting American seminaries merely theological? Or is the problem more systemic?": I'd say "more systemic."

And not just in the seminaries; but in the churches themselves. It seems to me a "careerist attitude" is increasingly common today, as if being the pastor of a flock could in any sense ever be "a job," entailing concerns about promotion, mediation of grievances, pay, pensions, etc.

Thanks so much for the ping, dear YHAOS!

31 posted on 04/02/2013 10:16:13 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop
I would say that “more systemic” is correct, betty.

. . . not just in the seminaries; but in the churches themselves.

What happens in the seminaries rears its ugly head in the churches. Just as in education generally (or the lack of education), so does it generally rear its ugly head in society.

It seems to me a "careerist attitude" is increasingly common today

It once was referred to as a “calling.” Just as politicians once answered the “call” to serve their community in one governmental function or another, as a way to “pay back” for the benefits of a benevolent government designed to minister to the legitimate needs of the governed. When people come to regard politics as a “career,” then we may be sure that government for the people, at their consent, is being supplanted by a tyranny managed by a “ruling class.”

Thanks for the comeback.

33 posted on 04/02/2013 11:39:38 AM PDT by YHAOS
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