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To: betty boop
I would say that “more systemic” is correct, betty.

. . . not just in the seminaries; but in the churches themselves.

What happens in the seminaries rears its ugly head in the churches. Just as in education generally (or the lack of education), so does it generally rear its ugly head in society.

It seems to me a "careerist attitude" is increasingly common today

It once was referred to as a “calling.” Just as politicians once answered the “call” to serve their community in one governmental function or another, as a way to “pay back” for the benefits of a benevolent government designed to minister to the legitimate needs of the governed. When people come to regard politics as a “career,” then we may be sure that government for the people, at their consent, is being supplanted by a tyranny managed by a “ruling class.”

Thanks for the comeback.

33 posted on 04/02/2013 11:39:38 AM PDT by YHAOS
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To: YHAOS; Alamo-Girl
When people come to regard politics [or religious ministry] as a “career,” then we may be sure that government for the people, at their consent, is being supplanted by a tyranny managed by a “ruling class.”

Oh, so very TRUE, dear brother in Christ!

When a "calling" is reduced to a "career," then something ineffable, the consciousness of something vastly important, has already been lost.

The loss of this "ineffable" reduces man to the status of an animal, or worse, to the status of a machine.

Thank you so very much, dear brother YHAOS, for writing!

34 posted on 04/02/2013 11:58:14 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: YHAOS

“”When people come to regard politics as a “career,” then we may be sure that government for the people, at their consent, is being supplanted by a tyranny managed by a “ruling class.””

The ruling class in this system was able to control because of a pluralistic system with no set rules about morality.

We are close to the point where “WE THE PEOPLE” mentality approve of abortion,gay marriage and every other moral atrocity.

You ought to realize that a country based on “We the people” was flawed from the start, because there was never any set rules DEFINING morality laid as a foundation in the first place.

It has only took a few hundred years to make “We The People” immoral majorities willing to accept all evil


37 posted on 04/09/2013 8:39:11 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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