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Putin Orders Ban on Adoptions by LGBT Foreign Couples – Report
RT ^ | 3/28/13

Posted on 03/30/2013 9:44:12 AM PDT by marshmallow

The Russian president has opposed the adoption of Russian orphans by LGBT foreign couples, and has instructed the government and the Supreme Court to prepare changes to existing law before July 1.

Russian President Vladimir Putin’s order will most likely be fulfilled by the Ministry of Education and Science, which is currently dealing with issues concerning orphans and adoptions, Izvestia daily reported.

The ministry has not yet commented on the news, saying that Putin’s instructions had not yet reached their office.

Tensions over the issue arose in mid-February, after the French National Assembly voted to legalize adoptions by same-sex couples. At the time, the Russian plenipotentiary for children’s rights Pavel Astakhov said he would do everything to ensure that Russian orphans are only adopted by heterosexual families.

In mid-February, the Russian Foreign Ministry reported that it planned to verify the possible “psychological damage” inflicted on Russian orphan Yegor Shabatalov, who was adopted by a US woman who lived in a same-sex marriage with another US citizen, but concealed her relationship from Russian authorities when she filed the adoption request. Two years after adopting the Russian boy, the couple split and started a legal dispute over parental rights.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: adoption; adoptions; homosexualagenda; putin; russia

1 posted on 03/30/2013 9:44:12 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

When I read some of the comments on the story I weep for our country. The fact that Americans are writing they wish this KGB Dictator was our President is simply scary.

We have slipped so far in our desire for real leadership, this monster looks good to us.

I am not disagreeing with his stance on this single issue—I am just sorry that the leaders in this country would cut their arms off before taking a stand—a definitive stand—on any issue.


2 posted on 03/30/2013 9:48:50 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: marshmallow

Good on you mr KGB.

He would be a better American than our current POSOTUS.
(Though who knows what Mr KGB is really thinking)


3 posted on 03/30/2013 9:50:12 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

Historically, in the old USSR, homosexuality was a crime, IIRC, it could get you 8 years in the gulag.


4 posted on 03/30/2013 9:53:09 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: marshmallow

Russia is demographically imploding, they can’t afford to pander like us.

Sadly, I don’t know how successful their pro-family policies have been in countering the immense social problems they have.


5 posted on 03/30/2013 9:53:18 AM PDT by Shadow44
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To: marshmallow

He is only codifying or ramping up a long standing Russian law that Russian children not be adopted by homosexuals

American homosexuals with Russian adopted kids lied through their homestudies to get them, passing as “single” adopters

China banned homosexual adoptions a decade ago and stopped all or most adoptions by singles to avoid being lied to


6 posted on 03/30/2013 9:55:31 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: marshmallow

Seems all the real men live in Russia.


7 posted on 03/30/2013 9:56:22 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Vaquero

I don’t read too much into him being former KGB, he’s not into ideology.

If the Czar were still in power at the time, he would have served him just the same.


8 posted on 03/30/2013 9:57:48 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: marshmallow

Shame on us.


9 posted on 03/30/2013 9:59:07 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: marshmallow

Will it make any difference to the debate in this country that homosexuals adopting is more likely to produce homosexual outcome in the adoptees? It blows the “born that way” paradigm out of the water.


10 posted on 03/30/2013 10:00:55 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Vermont Lt
Putin knows full well that sexual licentiousness and public immorality will tear a society apart; It's precisely why the KGB promoted it in the west for decades.

Putin opposes homosexuality not for any high moral reasons, but for the same reasons you will rarely meet an oncologist that chain smokes.

11 posted on 03/30/2013 10:01:03 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: marshmallow

For all of Putins faults, I can’t disagree with him on this one


12 posted on 03/30/2013 10:02:17 AM PDT by Figment
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To: marshmallow

This is the one and only time I will agree with this communist.
Our nation is in deep trouble when we agree with a communist. God help us all.


13 posted on 03/30/2013 10:02:59 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: marshmallow

Biology Thumper!


14 posted on 03/30/2013 10:08:30 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: marshmallow
Russian president has opposed the adoption of Russian orphans by LGBT foreign couples

He's a HOMOPHONE.../s

15 posted on 03/30/2013 10:11:52 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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To: mardi59
This is the one and only time I will agree with this communist.

This and their single rate income tax.

16 posted on 03/30/2013 10:25:16 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: marshmallow

Sanity is apparently still existent in Russia. I guess Vlad, for all his faults, actually cares about Russian kids.


17 posted on 03/30/2013 10:35:11 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: fella

“This is the one and only time I will agree with this communist.

This and their single rate income tax. “

And their pro-business attitude.

Countries change. They seems to be making serious changes for the better. We, in the meantime, seem to be committing suicide in all sorts of creative ways.


18 posted on 03/30/2013 10:37:04 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: mardi59

Putin is a lot of things...a Communist is not one of them. More of a Russian Nationalist than anything.


19 posted on 03/30/2013 10:38:05 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: marshmallow
Smart call by Putin.


20 posted on 03/30/2013 10:39:00 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Persevero
Sanity is apparently still existent in Russia. I guess Vlad, for all his faults, actually cares about Russian kids.

True, we have to remember that Putin will do what is best for Russia, or at least what he thinks is best, at least he is looking out for the country. I wish ours did the same but he is more bent on destroying us along with living like a king while doing it.
21 posted on 03/30/2013 10:44:16 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: Nowhere Man

You said it. I hope after looking at our nation and what its government and population are doing, many other countries block adoptions by US parents, not just homosexual ones. Because even if the kid is raised by a heterosexual couple, he’s still growing up in a society where the gay mafia will force him to shower with transexuals, and write essays on the benefits of anal sex.


22 posted on 03/30/2013 11:02:46 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: marshmallow

Putin and Russia are at least demonstrating sanity and genuinely protecting kids! Who can blame him, keeping children away from the cesspool of homo-America, as our country continues its moral and cultural descent into degeneracy.


23 posted on 03/30/2013 11:15:49 AM PDT by greene66
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To: Viennacon

Exactly.. They see the debauchery that pervades this culture and they want nothing of it for their kids. Would that our country’s leaders took the same stance.


24 posted on 03/30/2013 12:28:48 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: marshmallow; fellowpatriot; MarineMom613; Ron C.; wolfman23601; ColdOne; navymom1; Pat4ever; ...
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25 posted on 03/30/2013 12:31:22 PM PDT by narses
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To: ScottinVA
Some Catholic philosopher, a cultural "deep conservative" but I don't remember who, said that if men and women are free to marry and raise a family, and work productively for the support and well-being of their family, then the socety has the basics of a humane and decent life, no matter what its form of political governance.

(Assuming, of course, that the economic and political structures have not fatally undermined your ability to work, to benefit from your work, and to marry.)

If one can live in Russia with the liberty to work, marry, beget and raise your kids, it could arguably be a better place to live in than, say, Riverside, CA, where the official unemployment rate is 15% (but the unofficial far higher), where high taxes rob wage-earners of most of their wages, and where their children --- under the guise of health! ---will be instructed in sodomy.

26 posted on 03/30/2013 12:49:43 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Pray for me, and I shall for you and all your friends, that we may merrily meet in heaven. - T. More)
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To: marshmallow

Putinism is a project of gradual restoration of the Soviet Communist system while of course, absorbing the lessons that lead to its defeat in the Cold War. We don’t yet know what the restored system will be in the economic terms. We don’t know to what extent the freedoms of speech and assembly will be reduced in the restored system either. One likely outcome is that the Russian Federation will break up into smaller ethnic enclaves, repeating the collapse of the Soviet Union 22 years earlier.

One of the cornerstones of Putinism is portrayal of the Western system as culturally irreparably liberal. Putinism positions itself as the only force in Russia unwilling to go with communists of the past, while at the same time rejecting the moral corruption of the West. So long as Putin is seen in Russia as a guarantor of conservative values, his popularity in Russia will remain quite high.

This gesture, in itself wholly salutary, should be seen in this context.


27 posted on 03/30/2013 12:56:55 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
One of the cornerstones of Putinism is portrayal of the Western system as culturally irreparably liberal

Can't say he's wrong in that.

28 posted on 03/30/2013 12:59:19 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I was just trying to explain to our young girls how things -- moral matters, in particular -- have incomprehensibly (to them) inverted since I was a kid. A world now where a good American has to question saying the Pledge of Allegiance (OK, still, to have allegiance to the flag but what else are you assenting to or condoning "for which it stands"?), yet would be comfortable sitting beside Russia's president discussing contemporary moral depravity and Christian orthodoxy. But here, the Secret Service would remove you quickly were you to broach such issues. Not to mention which "lists" your name would permanently inscribe.

Good is condemned while evil is championed and elevated. Growing up in Amerika.

29 posted on 03/30/2013 1:07:10 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: dfwgator

Putin is not wrong in that, but his objective is not good for neither Russia or the West. If he succeeds, we will see the Russian people re-enslaved and a new anti-American axis emerging between Russia, China and Iran.


30 posted on 03/30/2013 1:07:30 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: smoothsailing; ntnychik; potlatch

Putin not "flexible" in that way

31 posted on 03/30/2013 1:16:26 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: marshmallow

Outstanding. I wish our government would show some of the same intestinal fortitude.


32 posted on 03/30/2013 1:25:56 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Vermont Lt

just look at the propoganda photos of puttie, he at least looks and acts like a man instead of a fag like obammy.


33 posted on 03/30/2013 1:54:29 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: PhilDragoo

Good One! :o)


34 posted on 03/30/2013 2:25:24 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: marshmallow

Pray that Christians don’t have to ask for asylum in Russia.


35 posted on 03/30/2013 4:07:13 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: marshmallow

Russians today are taught English at an early age. If they want to be gay, practically the ENTIRE Western World will welcome them and probably give them asylum. They have MANY options other than tearing Russia apart.


36 posted on 03/30/2013 4:12:46 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: annalex

“One of the cornerstones of Putinism is portrayal of the Western system as culturally irreparably liberal.”

I’m not sure where you’ve been the past 60 years, but Putin DOES NOT need to portray the West as “Culturally Liberal”.


37 posted on 03/30/2013 4:14:25 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: BobL

True; what he does is paint himself as the Third Way: free enterprise combined with traditional morals.

The big lie here is not that the West is liberal but that Putin is therefore what Russia needs. For one thing, the “free enterprise” in Russia chiefly consists of ex-KGB cronies stealing whatever is not bolted down and putting the proceeds off-shore.


38 posted on 03/30/2013 4:23:01 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

>>>>True; what he does is paint himself as the Third Way: free enterprise combined with traditional morals.

The big lie here is not that the West is liberal but that Putin is therefore what Russia needs. For one thing, the “free enterprise” in Russia chiefly consists of ex-KGB cronies stealing whatever is not bolted down and putting the proceeds off-shore.<<<<

South Korea, Singapore, Japan and many other developed nations has started this way. It hasn’t prevented transition to better political structures. What is your alternative for Russians for now? Free republic of old American style could be easily corrupted if implemented carelessly on post-communist society (and Russian history of 1990s with Soros de-facto on top proves it). Putinism is a huge improvement to both Soviet communism and early post-Soviet Yeltsinist ‘Open Society’.


39 posted on 03/31/2013 2:52:03 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

I don’t know about South Korea et al., but in Russian Putin and Putinism actively prevent “transition to better political structures”. For one thing Putin could immediately do an electoral reform so that political parties of any description could be registered and election mechanics are transparent. He can immediately implement media reform so that opposing views can be aired on television. He could release political prisoners and stop jailing new ones, for example, by repealing the “extremism” article of the criminal code, designed to specifically persecute the right wing. These are things he could do in a week’s time if he wanted a “transition to better political structures” at all.

Then there is an issue of non-existent business climate, for which at the present time the Kremlin with its ex-KGB power base is to blame. Presently, to do business in Russia one has to have political connections with Putin’s cronies in United Russia, in which case your business is above the law. If you do it by the books and gain success you will be “raided” by government officials on an arbitrary pretext and lose your business, so that a politically chosen “businessman” can profit from it. This is why Russia has Paris prices and Cairo wages, in case you wondered.

Then there is a constant reintroduction of symbolisms and methods of the Soviet system. In Russia it is not mere symbolism: it is artificially shoring up the servile mentality incompatible with economic and political freedom. There is a cult of the Soviet-German (so-called “Patriotic”) war which fosters a longing for restoration of the Soviet Empire in Eastern Europe. These attitudes are a brake on normal development of Russia as a peaceful European power striving for prosperity alongside its neighbors.

Under Putin the trajectory for Russia is nothing like what happened with the Southeast Asian “tigers”. Instead Russia will further drift into and African style natural resource colony of the West till it breaks up along its internal ethnic lines, and what was under the Czars a European cultural and economic powerhouse will be a starving wasteland.

Lastly, what is exactly wrong with “Free republic of old American style”? Yeltsinist/Soros “open society” was, remember, a system of secret pillage of the natural and at the time yet significant industrial resource among the KGB and the Communist Party cronies, to which a few wily foreigners were given token access. The trouble with Russia is that Yeltsin did not put a clear break with the Soviet past starting with lustration of the communist and KGB functionaries, so that enterprise could develop on a clean slate. He couldn’t, of course, — he would have been himself lustrated. But he did a few things right: for example, he opened the archives so that the horrors of communism could be seen and learned from. Instead of driving away the demons of Communism further, Putin almost immediately started work on restoration of the Soviet mythology and Soviet political climate. As Putin’s rise to power was accompanied by rising oil prices Putin was able to procure hopes for future prosperity, and associate it with his person. Objectively, Putin was a huge step back from Yeltsin.


40 posted on 03/31/2013 7:55:35 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

A lot of that you have said is true but I keep standing my point. Putin’s Russia offers much more opportunities and it is clearly visible. People developing ways to prosper below radar of corrupt government officials and as their number is growing they have chance to become an active majority to change situation for better. It wasn’t a case under Yeltsin when people were starving. They wanted no freedom or liberties selling their votes for food and vodka.


41 posted on 03/31/2013 8:28:24 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

The improvements that you think are “visible” are the result of a new generation that grew up free from communist indoctrination in the intervening 22 years, and of high oil prices.

Putinism prevents a far wider and deeper progress from occurring.


42 posted on 03/31/2013 8:35:24 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: dfwgator; BobL

I also wanted to add: there is a difference between exposing the dangers of liberalism in the West and making useless caricatures. In Russian-language blogosphere you often see caricatures. Children adopted from poorly run orphanages by well-meaning American couples are invariably described as brutalized and brainwashed, based on a few tragic instances of adoptions going wrong. In another example, if you read the descriptions of what Halloween or Valentine’s Day are, you’d think that the American nation devotes itself to enthusiastic Satan worship and sex orgies. It is plain old Soviet anti-Americanism in a modified dressing.


43 posted on 03/31/2013 8:50:23 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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