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1 posted on 03/02/2013 7:16:40 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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Some good observations here. I think we’re all reaching the point where there will be no other choice but to be “All offensive, all the time,” unless we deny Christ. And gosh, we Southern church ladies don’t like to give offense, but one could get into it, with practice ...

I for one have a lot of suppressed hostility looking for a suitable outlet ...


2 posted on 03/02/2013 7:19:43 PM PST by Tax-chick (We don't like original material, unless it's been done before.)
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Fundamentalists taught, “Come on out” while the New Evangelicals taught, “Stay in and fight.”

I think it cuts both ways. You don't necessarily have to compromise your beliefs to try to work in the world and make it a better place. One of the key issues is, simply, voting. Under this definition, Fundamentalists simply stay home on election day, whereas the new Evangelical way of thinking is that if Christians stay home, that simply hands the country over to the enemy.

I'll grant that with the RINO establishment doing its work, there often isn't much choice in who to vote for. But, when that's the case, I think that simply means that all good Christians need to try to fix that, too. On whatever level they can.

It's an imperfect world, and a disappointing one. But it won't get better if the Christians all retreat from the world and let it go to hell. Maybe it will go to hell, anyway, but they should make every effort to fight the growth of evil in the world.

3 posted on 03/02/2013 7:28:17 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Couple of weekends I went to a church that had a tagline something like “Church for people who don’t do church”.

I don’t even know how to describe it but in 75 minutes they never cracked a Bible and only fleetingly referenced a couple passages with out reading them.

I want the truth, not a secular story with some Jesus added to make it sound good. How about a biblical story with some real like sprinkled in it?


4 posted on 03/02/2013 7:34:26 PM PST by pennyfarmer (Your socialist beat our liberal AGAIN.)
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makes sense. bookmark.


5 posted on 03/02/2013 7:51:30 PM PST by dadfly
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Don’t most Christians believe they’re Biblical?


6 posted on 03/02/2013 7:54:22 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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So do these people not believe in Christ’s words:
“Love one another as I have loved you.”


7 posted on 03/02/2013 7:57:46 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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You might want to take a look at Darryl Hart's Deconstructing Evangelicalism
8 posted on 03/02/2013 8:12:20 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("You keep using that verse, but I do not think it means what you think it means." --I. Montoya)
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Bump for later


9 posted on 03/02/2013 8:41:58 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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oh, I like this article! :)


14 posted on 03/03/2013 3:31:10 AM PST by RaceBannon (When Chuck Norris goes to bed, he checks under it for Clint Eastwood!)
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I guess I don’t know what an Evangelical is. I just read the bible a lot and believe it completely.


20 posted on 03/03/2013 7:27:25 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Low information Christians are turning the USA into Europe.)
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I am not too sure i understand at all because Fundamentalists and Evangelicals are just more words that are Greek to me.

How ever i assume that the fundamentalists would be referred to as the church, and the Evangelicals are preaching the Gospel that the church should
be preaching.

I believe that Jesus was the son of God and was killed on the cross and rose from the grave and was glorified and now sits at the right hand of God but i have no church.

I also believe what he said in his own words happen to be the only Gospel we have.

Many people try to water down the Bible in order not to offend some one, others will try to make it more severe in order to keep what they believe to be undesirables out.

Some of the apostles went to great length to make the members of their church understand the importance of living the gospel they were commissioned to preach.

In this day of greed they are not only trying to make every one believers but also trying to make every one members of their church.

Matt 23
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For they bind heavy burdens which are grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not lift one of their little fingers to help them.

15
Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel across sea and land to make one convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourselves.

The object of the church was not to get every one to join the church, (in fact not just any one could join the church) but to preach the gospel OF jesus.

So if i understand what the thread is saying, it seems to me that the fundamentalists may have a better concept of how a church should be organized.

But the Evangelicals are doing what Jesus said to do and that is to preach the gospel, and maybe failing in running a well organized church.


21 posted on 03/03/2013 7:43:27 AM PST by ravenwolf
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If I call them heathens I am a Fundamentalist.
If I call them the non church ed I’m an Evangelical.
Wait.........I need a broader brush.


24 posted on 03/03/2013 9:36:35 AM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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Actually, good manners are based upon Christian principles.

Unfortunately, a worldly system has twisted good manners into tools of arrogance.

Little Mrs McGillicutty approaches the Church doors for her Bible Study. She has confessed her sins and is in fellowship through faith in Christ.

Sgt Smuckatelli sees Mrs McGillicutty approaching the doors and realizes that in her 90 lb frame, she may be challenged to open the door with a 20 lb door closer attached.

Mrs McGillicutty needs to overcome the hurdle of opening the door and might be distracted from her faith through Christ, by thinking she has to open the door by herself, thinking slips into a thinking mode independent of God.

With good manners, Sgt Smuckatelli realizes he has no problem opening the door and proceeds to open the door for Mrs McGillicutty, relieving her of the possible distraction.

This would be good manners.

Conversely, if the Sgt felt he wanted to perform a good work, so that Mrs McGillicutty would be appreciative of him and his good work, but he does this independent of faith in Christ, then Sgt McGillicutty becomes guilty of a sin of arrogance. Depending on how he reacts with Mrs McGillicutty, he might even cause her to fall out of fellowship.

Good manners focuses on Christ first and many times will not receive a reward prior to the first death, nor even recognition. Arrogance frequently attempts to counterfeit good manners as works independent of faith through Christ, and as such simply misses the mark of His Plan in each of our lives (sin).


29 posted on 03/03/2013 8:38:07 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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