Study: 'Toxic Perfectionism' Major Part of LDS Women's Depression

KSL.com ^ | Feb. 1, 2013 | KSL.com

[ravenwolf]

I concern myself more with the hell bound. After one has been trodden down, they can get back up but hell is forever.

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You ain,t alone i worry about it too.

[ravenwolf]

I mean, these articles are not done “expose’” style of the person behind the study...therefore, are you really claiming that Mormon church-owned media outlets are highlighting somebody who is “preying on Mormon women?”

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No, i said nothing about expose or the Mormon Church owned media, i just doubt the honesty of the writer who claims to be a Mormon and also a therapist who wrote the story.

I don,t think a faithful Mormon would write a story that would make the Church look like a piece of crap, but a therapist who expose,s the sufferings of Mormon women in his own church has got to be really something in the eyes of the non Mormon women, money money money.

It is nothing uncommon at all for people to become a member of a Church just for financial rewards and i believe this to be especially true in the Mormon Church.

If the same story would have been written by a Catholic about Catholic Women i would not trust it and neither would any one else except maybe the Mormons.

Would you not wonder if the guy was a real Catholic or not?

If it had been any one except Mormons no one would have believed it, and that is putting it mild.

So my first comment on the subject was about not believing that a real dedicated Mormon would write such
a story.

[ravenwolf]

Elsie, i was reading all of that stuff from the Mormon founders 50 years ago, i did not believe it then and i do not believe it now.

My only argument on this whole thing is that some Mormon therapist writes a story about how Mormon women feels inferior.

I don,t know if you read the story or not but it sure smells of financial and notoriety to me, a faithful Mormon would not write such a story even if it were true any more than a catholic would.

[ravenwolf]

You are right; but vague, since you never explain the OTHER false religion besides MORMONism; leaving the jurors to ASSUME you meant Christianity - MORMONism’s biggest enemy.

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I am not sure we can make any since to each other because i do not consider religions including Mormonism to be Christian,
That does not mean that i don,t think that there are not Christian people in these religions.

[ravenwolf]

(Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)

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Finally something we can agree on, unless there is fine print some where that i did not see..

[Elsie]

i just doubt the honesty of the writer who claims to be a Mormon and also a therapist who wrote the story.

Maybe these dudes are finally waking up and deciding to TELL the world about MORMONism.

I hear that a BUNCH of MORMON disgruntleds are going to be doing some kind of protests at their churchs TOMORROW.

[Elsie]

I don,t think a faithful Mormon would write a story that would make the Church look like a piece of crap...

Yeah; the indoctrination of members runs deep and subtle...

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"Any Latter-day Saint who denounces or opposes, whether actively or otherwise, any plan or doctrine advocated by the 'prophets, seers, and revelators' of the Church is cultivating the spirit of apostacy..."

(Improvement Era, June 1945, p. 354)

 

 

 

Reinforced here......

 

MP3 File

This is the audio clip of Dallin H. Oaks, current Mormon Apostle leader, from the PBS documentary, "The Mormons", declaring unequivocally:

"IT'S WRONG TO CRITICIZE LEADERS OF THE (MORMON) CHURCH, EVEN IF THE CRITICISM IS TRUE."

 

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Don't criticize?

 

Dallin H. Oaks, Mormon Apostle 

 

 

 

And here:

 

Temple Recommend Questions:

 1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

 2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

 3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

 4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

 5 Do you live the law of chastity?

 6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

 7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

 8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

 9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other oblgations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

     Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?

     Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?

 

 

 

 

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Oh, they can say that their leaders were NOT speaking for GOD when they said    WHATEVER    but that's NOT the same as criticizing!

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( Remember fellow Christians:  the Mormon's criticize US because they've been taught that they CAN'T criticize ANY of their leaders; so they HAVE to vent somehow! )

[Elsie]

Elsie, i was reading all of that stuff from the Mormon founders 50 years ago, i did not believe it then and i do not believe it now.

Oh?

Why not?

It's sourced...

[Elsie]

I’m not sure all all what you just typed means...

[ravenwolf]

Do ANY of you damned SLC mormons reading this, who has gotten any information from your church, that old B.Y. was:

damned for not following your Scripture found in D&C 132:58-66?

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What in the hell are you mad about now?

[ravenwolf]

Again, you use the phrase “mormon haters” and have yet to provide one example of this illusive hate.

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OK, i will say accusers, does that make you feel better.

[ravenwolf]

I’m not sure all all what you just typed means...

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If you are not angry why are you doing all of the cussing,,, just kidding.

[ravenwolf]

Oh?

Why not?

It’s sourced...

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You are not the sorceress are you?

[ravenwolf]

Maybe these dudes are finally waking up and deciding to TELL the world about MORMONism.

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Who knows, that is why i do not trust it.

[Cronos]

what exactly is wrong with striving to be perfect? Are the lib media now saying it is to be abandoned and everyone should be losers like them?

[Elsie]

What in the hell are you mad about now?

Once again yuou either m iss the point or avoid it: just like MORMONs have avoided reply #59.

[Elsie]

OK, i will say accusers, does that make you feel better.

Are they any, ahem, 'accusers' that have NOT shown the evidence?

If so; those would be MORMONs.

[Elsie]

If you are not angry why are you doing all of the cussing,,, just kidding.

I am merely repeating what Living Prophet® #2 has said.

Why are you confused over just WHO is angry?

[Elsie]

You are not the sorceress are you?

Dance around, try to deflect, attempt humor, avoid dealing with historical facts.

Can't Millet teach his mush heads amy better than that?

[Elsie]

Who knows, that is why i do not trust it.

Well now; we're getting somewhere!

Admitting you don't know is a good first step.

Now then, if you can get in contact with your EMOTIONS over this matter, you might determine the source of your distrust: the messenger or the message.