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To: John Leland 1789
"Who cares if the Constitution says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
"
It is only stupid words on paper dwarfed by our power.
What difference does it make?"


4 posted on 02/02/2013 7:21:29 PM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Diogenesis
A stupid skank, then and now....
7 posted on 02/02/2013 7:53:30 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Diogenesis

Diogenesis~:” “Who cares if the Constitution says, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”

Since when did Socialism , or humanism become a religion ?
These are rights , ‘God given rights’ to all men of this
country, and they shall not be abridged or infringed .
You can rewrite history , but you cannot rewrite the Constitution !
I don’t trust anybody in Washington to rewrite any of my rights,
nor the Constitution, as they all have proven unworthy !
The ‘Founding Fathers’ have proven their worth by their blood and their sacrifice on our behalf


11 posted on 02/02/2013 11:36:09 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (" Our enemies no longer fear us, our friends no longer trust us " .. Why would they ?)
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To: Diogenesis
why should we compromise when we have this: http://www.libertycaucus.net/forum/index.php?topic=113.0 How Roberts Was Blackmailed To Support ObamaCare Many of us have questioned what caused Roberts to switch his vote on ObamaCare at the last minute, as reported by CBS, and doing so, so late that the Conservative Justices were forced to rewrite their majority opinion to be minority dissent. These facts may answer that question. In 2000 Justice Roberts and his wife Jane adopted two children. Initially it was apparent that the adoptions were "from a Latin American country", but over time it has become apparent that the adopted children were not Latin American, but were Irish. Why this matters will become evident. In 2005 the NY Times began investigating Roberts life as a matter of his nomination to the Supreme Court by George Bush. The Times was shortly accused of trying to unseal the adoption papers and intending to violate the anonymity of the adoption process... however there is more to the story. Drudge did an article in 2005 http://patterico.com/2005/08/04/drudge-says-new-york-times-is-investigating-robertss-adoption-records/ The NEW YORK TIMES is looking into the adoption records of the children of Supreme Court Nominee John G. Roberts, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. The TIMES has investigative reporter Glen Justice hot on the case to investigate the status of adoption records of Judge Roberts’ two young children, Josie age 5 and Jack age 4, a top source reveals. Judge Roberts and his wife Jane adopted the children when they each were infants. Both children were adopted from Latin America. A TIMES insider claims the look into the adoption papers are part of the paper’s “standard background check.” Bill Borders, NYT senior editor, explains: “Our reporters made initial inquiries about the adoptions, as they did about many other aspects of his background. They did so with great care, understanding the sensitivity of the issue.” Were the Children Adopted from Ireland? This is not clear ... -- the Associated Press reports that they were "adopted from Latin America." This seems a bit puzzling, in light of the Time magazine report indicating that the children were born in Ireland. Also, their blonde hair and fair skin do not seem conventionally Latin American. 1 TIME had a “web exclusive” on the Roberts's (7/24/05) and quoted a family friend as stating the kids were “born in Ireland 4 1/2 months apart.” How were the Children Adopted? According to The New York Times, based on information from Mrs. Roberts's sister, Mary Torre, the children were adopted through a private adoption. As explained by Families for Private Adoption, "[p]rivate (or independent) adoption is a legal method of building a family through adoption without using an adoption agency for placement. In private adoption, the birth parents relinquish their parental rights directly to the adoptive parents, instead of to an agency."2 But was Robert's adoption utilizing "a legal method"? Apparently the process of adopting Jack involved some stress for John Roberts. According to Dan Klaidman of Newsweek, during the contested 2000 election, Roberts "spent a few days in Florida advising lawyers [for George W. Bush] on their legal strategy," but "he did not play a central role," because " at the time, Roberts was preoccupied with the adoption of his son." It is now quite evident that the two Children were from Ireland. Even wikipedia references these adoptions at the time of Roberts' confirmation, and indicates that the children were of Irish birth. However Irish law 1) prohibits the adoption of Children to non-residents, and 2) also does not permit private adoptions, but rather has all adoptions go through a public agency. This would explain the children's origin from a "Latin American country", so as to circumvent Irish law. Evidently Roberts arranged for this adoption through some sort of trafficking agency, that got the children out of Ireland and into that Latin American country, from which they were adopted, thereby circumventing two Irish laws -- entirely illegal, but perhaps quasi-legitimized by the birth mothers (two) transporting the children out of Ireland. Undoubtedly Roberts and his wife spent a great deal of money for this illegal process, circumventing Irish laws and arranging for the transit of two Irish children from separate birth-mothers to a foreign nation. Come 2012, those two children have been with the Roberts' for roughly 10 years, since they were adopted as "infants". Some might feel an impulse dismiss this information, mistakenly believing Roberts and his wife were doing a good thing for a children needing a home. That would be an inaccurate belief. As recognized, such an inter-country adoption would only come about at great cost, and those who utilize this method are creating a for-profit black market in adoptive children, trafficking across international borders, and doing so from mothers who have not yet given up their children except for that profit. Such actions are creating a very unsavory profit-for-children human trafficking market that even necessitates immediate contact with new birth mothers in dire circumstances to offer financial gain. The entire arrangement is thoroughly predatory, turning children into only financial commodity, and even providing motivation for their birth mothers to give them up! That's an important ethical recognition. Roberts is not deserving of any sort of respect here, and is only the latest example of people in position believing themselves above the law, beyond scrutiny and exempt from repercussion. It all now makes sense. The circumstances of these two adoptions explain not only why this would be overlooked by an overall sympathetic media, but also why a sitting Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court would not want this information to become public fodder well into his tenure. Its release and public discussion would discredit Roberts as an impartial judge of the law, and undoubtedly lead to his impeachment. This also explains why Roberts would have a means to be blackmailed, and why that leverage would still exist even after the institution of ObamaCare. ... And it has led to flipping the swing-vote on ObamaCare, which fundamentally changed the relationship between citizen and government, making us de facto property of the state, with our relative worth in care and maintenance able to be determined by the government. Essentially it was a coup without firing a shot, much less needing even an Amendment to the Constitution. And it is consistent with Obama's Chicago-style politics, that has previously involved opening other sealed records in order to win election. « Last Edit: February 01, 2013, 12:50:58 AM by Trip » Logged Declaration: ObamaCare Unconstitutional
12 posted on 02/03/2013 4:56:38 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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