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Churches 'Could be Sued for Refusing to Agree to Gay Marriages'
The Daily Telegraph (UK) ^
| 1/15/13
| Telegraph Reporters
Posted on 01/16/2013 9:15:45 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
It should go to court and then get this issue settled.
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posted on
01/16/2013 9:17:44 AM PST
by
stuartcr
("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
To: marshmallow
With headlines like this, “The Twilight Zone” could make a comeback. Our country is all but lost to libtard freaks.
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posted on
01/16/2013 9:20:52 AM PST
by
Mich Patriot
(PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
To: marshmallow
Coming to America, even though those who defend "gay marriage", claim that is not their goal. I don't believe them, they are liars, just as surely as they're lying that there can be such a thing as "gay marriage". God defined marriage and God will not redefine it.
The line in the sand is forcing churches to comply.
To: marshmallow
Gays should start their own church and denomination and then they are free to worship their god whoever that might be that goes along with their lifestyle and supports it. Have their own bishops, their own bylaws, their own mission outreach, their marriage, their funerals and whatever else they want their church to meet their desires.
To: marshmallow
Will happen here. The plan is to bankrupt the churches.
To: YukonGreen
Gays should start their own church and denomination and then they are free to worship their god whoever that might be that goes along with their lifestyle and supports it. Have their own bishops, their own bylaws, their own mission outreach, their marriage, their funerals and whatever else they want their church to meet their desires.They've always had that option. It's not about their freedom to worship as they choose. They crave acceptance so much that they want to force everybody else to validate them. As self-loathing narcissists, they will always be bothered by the notion that someone, somewhere does not approve of their lifestyle.
On the disgusting series The New Normal, one of the homos on the show likened your advice to being told to "sit at the back of the bus".
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posted on
01/16/2013 9:37:49 AM PST
by
Sans-Culotte
( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
To: marshmallow
Does this apply to MUSLIM churches in ENGLAND as well ?
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posted on
01/16/2013 9:42:20 AM PST
by
UCANSEE2
( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
To: I want the USA back
The plan is to bankrupt the churches.The 'plan' is to force Christian churches to accept homosexuality, so that the MUSLIMS have another reason to kill Christians.
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posted on
01/16/2013 9:45:30 AM PST
by
UCANSEE2
( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
To: Conservativegreatgrandma
"The line in the sand is forcing churches to comply."
My pastor was at a pastor's conference last fall - they were told to expect to go to jail in the near-future.
Paul had counted it as a joy to be imprisoned for the Gospel.
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posted on
01/16/2013 9:58:27 AM PST
by
Psalm 73
("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
To: marshmallow
This is coming here and coming soon. If you don't think so, you are only fooling yourself. The question that we all need to be asking is "what will my church do when the lavender lawyers sue?"
I'm a Protestant, but my bet is that four out of five Protestant churches will roll over. And for the record, I don't intend to stay in a church that rolls on this issue.
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posted on
01/16/2013 9:59:01 AM PST
by
jboot
(This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
To: Mich Patriot
So I assume you’re British?
To: Psalm 73
they were told to expect to go to jail in the near-future Old Roger has gotten much more canny since he tangled with Saint Paul. Few pastors are going to go to jail. But plenty of pastors and church employees are going to be stripped of their livelihoods, pensions and children's college funds, plenty of missionaries and hospitals are going to lose their financial support, plenty of grand old church buildings are going to be sold at auction and plenty of hopes, dreams and futures are going to be sacrificed on the altar of butt-sex.
A martyr's cell would be preferable to the financial and social ruin that is going to be visited on our pastors and priests.
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posted on
01/16/2013 10:07:47 AM PST
by
jboot
(This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
To: bigdaddy45
Nope. I was so pissed when I read the headline that I missed the ‘Daily Telegraph’ part. Probably coming soon here though.
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posted on
01/16/2013 10:24:52 AM PST
by
Mich Patriot
(PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
To: Conservativegreatgrandma
God defined marriage and God will not redefine it. And, He is abundantly clear regarding this sort of sin, chapter and verse clear, along with its consequences. Best not to push it.
Please correct me if I am wrong, but does "tolerance" even appear in the Bible? I don't think it does.
What does appear is that God is one serious serial killer when pushed very far. Men, women, children are all wiped from the planet for crossing the line, even His own people, and not just in the biblical past. That's part of the plan for the future.
Jesus didn't change that fact, he reiterated it.
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posted on
01/16/2013 10:37:49 AM PST
by
GBA
(Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
To: Psalm 73
We have had similar conversations in our church (Lutheran Church Missouri Synod). That's a far cry from the ELCA who will actually ordain, or marry a homosexual, huh?
I don't even like to hear the term, "Lutheran" because it means no more than the term, "Christian".
To: marshmallow
Those who support homosexuals are
against our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ.
These anti Christ people only bring destruction on us ALL.
I have
NO sympathy for homosexuals!
Homosexuality is a
"Mark" of disobedience.
Someone once asked"Why are they [homosexuals] all so angry?"
The answer is in the definition of "
REPROBATE".
rep·ro·bate \ˈre-prə-ˌbāt\ a. [L. reprobatus, reprobo, to disallow; re and probo, to prove.]
- 1. Not enduring proof or trial; not of standard purity or fineness; disallowed; rejected.
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Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the Lord hath rejected them. Jer. 6.
- 2. Abandoned in sin; lost to virtue or grace.
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They profess that they know God, but in works deny him, being abominable and disobedient, and to every good work reprobate. Titus 1.
- 3. Abandoned to error, or in apostasy. 2Tim. 3.
And the reason
"why" is
given in the Bible.
God has
a cure for homosexuals.
But will we OBEY our Heavenly Father?
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posted on
01/16/2013 10:56:04 AM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: marshmallow
I know this is Britain; but, I have been waiting for this to happen someplace ever since the “gay marriage” thing got going. At some point, some gay couple will sue a church for not marrying them on the grounds of a “hate crime”. It will happen here.
To: jboot
"Old Roger has gotten much more canny since he tangled with Saint Paul."
Which is why we are focusing on "home churches" - getting people used to meeting in homes instead of churches - prep. for coming persecution.
South Vietnamese pastors had thier congregations read "Tortured for Christ" by R. Wurmbrandt (founder of VOM) in preparation of takeover by the communists (Jane Fonda and Ted Kennedy's Red friends).
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posted on
01/16/2013 12:00:59 PM PST
by
Psalm 73
("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
To: Psalm 73
A church I attended some time ago had a large picture of Dr. Wurmbrandt hanging in a common area. It had been taken within a few months of his torture and was rather graphic. It had a way of pulling me up short every time I saw it. What an amazing man of faith he was!
Home churches are a great idea, but to work they have to be strictly under the radar: no paid staff, no insurance, no property or trusts, nothing that could create a paper trail. The pastor would need to be a tentmaking pastor, which is a demanding way of life.
Perhaps a FReeper with more legal acumen than me could speak to the possiblity of the hosting homeowner being named a party in a civil rights lawsuit. To the point: could you be financially or otherwise liable for hosting a home church that refuses to marry homosexuals? My gut says yes.
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posted on
01/16/2013 12:41:36 PM PST
by
jboot
(This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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