Posted on 01/06/2013 3:34:53 PM PST by narses
Ecumenical threads are closed to antagonism.
To antagonize is to incur or to provoke hostility in others.
Unlike the caucus threads, the article and reply posts of an ecumenical thread may discuss more than one belief, but antagonism is not tolerable.
More leeway is granted to what is acceptable in the text of the article than to the reply posts. For example, the term gross error in an article will not prevent an ecumenical discussion, but a poster should not use that term in his reply because it is antagonistic. As another example, the article might be a passage from the Bible which would be antagonistic to Jews. The passage should be considered historical information and a legitimate subject for an ecumenical discussion. The reply posts however must not be antagonistic.
Contrasting of beliefs or even criticisms can be made without provoking hostilities. But when in doubt, only post what you are for and not what you are against. Or ask questions.
Ecumenical threads will be moderated on a where theres smoke, theres fire basis. When hostility has broken out on an ecumenical thread, Ill be looking for the source.
Therefore anti posters must not try to finesse the guidelines by asking loaded questions, using inflammatory taglines, gratuitous quote mining or trying to slip in an anti or ex article under the color of the ecumenical tag.
A number of folks have asked about this, some with apparent sincerity. Here is the Catholic view (which I agree with, of course.)
A number of folks have asked about this, some with apparent sincerity. Here is the Catholic view (which I agree with, of course.)
Another great post. Thanks!
Many of the exegetists spoke of the resurrection of the body prior to the now widespread practice of cremation. I’d like to read more about this in terms of the resurrection of the body.
My pleasure!
A number of folks have asked about this, some with apparent sincerity. Here is the Catholic view (which I agree with, of course.)
The Catholic view??? Here's God's view...Why would one chose the Catholic view over God's view???
1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
Long before cremation became common in the west, death by fire (or the body being largely consumed by fire following death) was not uncommon.
There are those who consider cremation a desecration of God's creation, but the act has no impact upon the Lord's ability to resurrect the dead.
Yet the common understanding was that the “dead” physical body would be resurrected just as Christ’s dead physical body was raised.
The Catholic Church is the earthly Body of Christ founded by Christ and meant to preserve his teachings intact as a “common body” handed down to St.Peter, his apostles and their successors. This way we won’t have 32,000 different brands of Christianity from Joel Osteen to Bishop Jake. Oh, and I forgot the Mormons and Rev. Wright.
Westminster Confession of Faith, Chapter 32:
2. At the last day, such as are found alive shall not die, but be changed: and all the dead shall be raised up, with the selfsame bodies, and none other (although with different qualities), which shall be united again to their souls forever.
3. The bodies of the unjust shall, by the power of Christ, be raised to dishonor: the bodies of the just, by his Spirit, unto honor; and be made conformable to his own glorious body.
http://www.opc.org/wcf.html#Chapter_32
Thanks!
Catholic cremation is explored in depth at: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04481c.htm
Why would people want their bodies back?
Why would people want their bodies back?
The London Baptist Confession of 1689 (although no longer followed by most Baptists) tracks this language.
Let’s look at it in a specific context.
Who is more powerful, God or Adolf Hitler?
If a Christian was murdered in a concentration camp and then the body cremated, could the Nazis thus prevent God from resurrecting the body, as set out in Scriptures?
Many Catholics and Protestants may oppose cremation on various moral grounds -that isn’t the subject of this thread - but the bodily resurrection really shouldn’t be one of the bases for their argument.
It is part of the Bible teaching that at the end of the age, those who are believers will experience a resurection of the body that is glorified just like the Lord’s.
Do people want that? Where do people live after the age ends?
Do people want that? Where do people live after the age ends?
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