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To: caddie

Actually I did read it. Did you?

“that in the State such economic and social methods should be adopted as will enable every head of a family to earn as much as, according to his station in life, is necessary for himself, his wife and for the rearing of his children….”

Like I said. The Catholic Church just loves big government.


9 posted on 01/01/2013 2:54:37 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

“Now it is of the very essence of social justice to demand from each individual all that is necessary for the common good”

Sounds pretty much like “from each according to his ability”.

Which pretty much matches the “to each according to his need” quote that you excerpted.

Of course, the socialists can be trusted to reciprocate with the Church when the it bends to socialist ideals of social justice. For example, look how well the Church fared at the hands of socialists in 1920’s Mexico and Spain, when Studiorum Ducem was published.

Personally, I’m in the Hayek camp when it comes to “social justice.”

“There can be no test by which we can discover what is ‘socially unjust’ because there is no subject by which such an injustice can be committed, and there are no rules of individual conduct the observance of which in the market order would secure to the individuals and groups the position which as such (as distinguished from the procedure by which it is determined) would appear just to us. [Social justice] does not belong to the category of error but to that of nonsense, like the term `a moral stone’.”

The advocates of “social justice” never make logical arguments from first principles of just conduct to advance their claims on other people’s income and property. It usually boils down to simple envy.


10 posted on 01/01/2013 3:18:22 PM PST by Skepolitic
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To: Lurker
Lurker, we both read it and are emphasizing various parts to make our points.

What I take away is the Pope's emphasis on people not being lazy and not being on the dole. Plus, what they earn, is theirs.

These are conservative principles.

The living wage thing is just one manifestation of the Golden Rule, IMHO. You think some guy who works at WalMart makes a living wage? No, the Walmart suits are billionaires who expanded without a trace of a thought of what their megalomaniacal greed would do to America's manufacturing and retail. They could give two shits about wiping out a small town's retail and manufacturing.

so the suits, in their greed, left the door open for the Rats to buy votes with their 'supplemental income' programs, their feminist advocacy, etc.

If corporate America had not outsourced everything to the Third World, because of their greed, well, then there WOULD be living wages for those in manufacturing and retail in this country.

11 posted on 01/01/2013 4:23:39 PM PST by caddie
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To: Lurker

Can you read?

“to earn”

Not give. Not hand out. To EARN.

Are you a product of a government school?


13 posted on 01/01/2013 4:54:34 PM PST by vladimir998
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