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Mormons in Mourning: Post Election Depression
A Well-Behaved Mormon Woman ^ | November 2, 2012 | Kathryn Skaggs

Posted on 12/29/2012 9:10:37 AM PST by greyfoxx39

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To: stuartcr

Oh they do, no “think so” to it. Otherwise you would have left all this alone some time ago...


51 posted on 12/29/2012 9:14:27 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ansel12

Wait...

Are you saying...

No, it can’t be...

A Mormon would lie?

No...

So does that mean my matched set of Genuine Nephite Chessmen in the Curelom skin pouch could be fakes?


52 posted on 12/29/2012 9:23:58 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22; ansel12
So does that mean my matched set of Genuine Nephite Chessmen in the Curelom skin pouch could be fakes?

along with those golden tickets to the grand opening of the nephite exhibit at the smithsonian.

53 posted on 12/29/2012 9:27:41 PM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: BillyBoy

Mainstream Protestantism does not reject Catholicism nor Orthodoxy. There are some outlier Baptist and charismatics who seemed to have picked up issues, but even the SBC actively participates in ecumenical organizations with Catholics ad fellow Christians. I myself have been both Methodist and Orthodox and moved between the two with nary a look nor did I burst into flames. In fact the Orthodox Church took my Methodist Baptism for membership.


54 posted on 12/29/2012 9:29:41 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Godzilla

Oh man...

I heard the artifacts were out of sight...


55 posted on 12/29/2012 9:36:15 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22; campaignPete R-CT
>> Mainstream Protestantism does not reject Catholicism nor Orthodoxy. There are some outlier Baptist and charismatics who seemed to have picked up issues, but even the SBC actively participates in ecumenical organizations with Catholics ad fellow Christians. <<

I agree, I think most major protestant denominations have no problem accepting Catholic and Orthodox Christians are legitimate Christians. The "Catholics ain't Christian" stuff seems to a fringe movement limited to some fundamentalist "born again" types. They'd also probably say most of their fellow protestants, and indeed, about 90% of practicing Christians in the world, "ain't Christian", since they only believe their brand of Christianity to be legit. History certainly isn't in their favor, the apostles themselves would be "non Christians" in their eyes.

>> I myself have been both Methodist and Orthodox and moved between the two with nary a look nor did I burst into flames. In fact the Orthodox Church took my Methodist Baptism for membership. <<

True, I think the rule of thumb for Catholic and Orthodox Churches is that a protestant baptism is valid as long as it's a tridentine baptism done with a traditional understanding of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The vast majority of protestant churches fit that definition. Those that are non-tridentine often don't do the sacrament of baptism anyway. And non-Chrisitan churches like Mormons say "Father, Son, and Holy Spirt", but believe them to be three separate gods who "work together". Thus their baptism deviates from historic Christianity and what was established in the Bible, so it's not a Christian baptism. This isn't to say they're bad people though. Many Mormons behave in a more Christian manner than a lot of "Christians" in the world.

56 posted on 12/30/2012 12:05:00 AM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: stuartcr; ejonesie22
Not really, but please feel free to think so.

Yeah; it's that OTHER guy, Greg West; who has his pants all aknicker.

But since he can't post here any more; other deceived LDS folk may have to do it for him.

He is REALLY upset, about this very thread, on his latest FRAMreport.


(Haven't other LDS folks been invited to put in their two cents worth here?)

57 posted on 12/30/2012 3:35:18 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Graybeard58
You missed the very next sentence:

Like many of you hoping to celebrate the 2012 election results, I was ready to enthusiastically write that historic victory post, not only here, but also on the Washington Post:

Mitt Romney First Mormon President of the United States!

58 posted on 12/30/2012 3:37:41 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ejonesie22
So does that mean my matched set of Genuine Nephite Chessmen in the Curelom skin pouch could be fakes?

There may be another opus in your future...




Where can we find an 'OFFICIAL MORMON' teaching website??
Official sites are sites supported by LDS officials unless said official sites are considered unofficial by said officials.
 
At that point such sites are unofficial unless officially referenced for official purposes by officials who can do so officially.
 
This should not be misconstrued as an indication that official sites can be unofficially recognized as official nor should it be implied that unofficial sites cannot contain official information, but are not officially allowed to be offical despite their official contents due the their unofficialness.
 
Official sites will be official and recognized as official by officials of the LDS unless there is an official reason to mark them as unofficial either temporally or permanently, which would make the official content officially unofficial.
 
This is also not to imply that recognized sites, often used on FR by haters and bigots cannot contain official information, it just means that content, despite its official status, is no longer official and should be consider unofficial despite the same information being official on an official site elsewhere.
 
Even then the officialness my be amended due to the use of the unofficial information which may determine the officialness of anything be it official or unofficial depending on how and where it is used officially or unofficially.
I hope this clear things up for the lurkers out there.
The haters tend to make things complicated and confusing when it is all really quite crystal clear.
--Ejonesie22

59 posted on 12/30/2012 3:39:53 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BillyBoy
Many Mormons behave in a more Christian manner than a lot of "Christians" in the world.

True.

Doncha wish that 'good behaviour' was the criteria for getting into heaven!!


Many MUSLIMS also behave in a more Christian manner than a lot of "Christians" in the world.

Likewise so do some atheists, Wiccans and navel gazers.

60 posted on 12/30/2012 3:43:43 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

 

John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”


1 John 3:21-24

Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.


61 posted on 12/30/2012 3:44:58 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ejonesie22
I heard the artifacts were out of sight...

Only a Hateful ANTI would say a thing like that!


http://www.bookofmormontours.com/

62 posted on 12/30/2012 3:50:46 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BillyBoy

Your last paragraph “hit the nail on the head”. The family of Christ is defined by that very doctrine.


63 posted on 12/30/2012 6:06:38 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: BillyBoy; ejonesie22; SENTINEL; Colofornian; colorcountry; P-Marlowe
Many Mormons behave in a more Christian manner than a lot of "Christians" in the world.

As a former mormon who has lived in several mormon-controlled communities, I can assure you that I have personally known of mormon pedophiles, mormon drunks, mormon thieves and mormon wife-beaters.

For example, a current case:

Former LDS bishop arraigned, accused of bilking 'little guys'

Is this the behavior that you consider the most "Christian"?

Even if it is, mormonism is NOT Christianity...even if "many" behave.

64 posted on 12/30/2012 6:13:32 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Romney's gift to the country....Boehner bowing to Obama while kicking the Tea Party.)
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To: ejonesie22

No, otherwise you would be correct...but you’re not.


65 posted on 12/30/2012 6:26:41 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: ejonesie22

No, otherwise you would be correct...but you’re not.


66 posted on 12/30/2012 6:26:57 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Elsie

??? Greg West???


67 posted on 12/30/2012 6:35:50 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Elsie

??? Greg West???


68 posted on 12/30/2012 6:36:06 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

You’re posting history indicates otherwise...


69 posted on 12/30/2012 7:37:57 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22

No, your skills at interpreting why people do things, is just not accurate.


70 posted on 12/30/2012 7:53:32 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

So the stop with the games and enlighten us as to your motivations...


71 posted on 12/30/2012 8:04:23 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: stuartcr

Neither are yours, even though apparently you think so.
Greg West........BOOOO!!!!!!


72 posted on 12/30/2012 8:05:09 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: ejonesie22

Why?


73 posted on 12/30/2012 8:19:55 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: svcw

Again ???Greg West??? who is he?


74 posted on 12/30/2012 8:21:03 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: svcw

Thanks for the freemail with the article by this Greg West guy. I glanced over it and now I know who he is..so?


75 posted on 12/30/2012 9:08:25 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

Red don’t glance
I actually understand why you don’t “get it”, so there is nothing I can say to help you understand.
ta ta


76 posted on 12/30/2012 9:27:25 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw

If I was interested, I would have Red it.


77 posted on 12/30/2012 9:46:28 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: greyfoxx39; ejonesie22; SENTINEL; Colofornian; colorcountry; P-Marlowe; Elsie; campaignPete R-CT
>> As a former mormon who has lived in several mormon-controlled communities, I can assure you that I have personally known of mormon pedophiles, mormon drunks, mormon thieves and mormon wife-beaters. <<

ALL religious denominations have that. There are examples of Jewish pedophiles, Jewish drunks, Jewish thieves and Jewish wife-beaters.... Southern Baptist pedophiles, Southern Baptist drunks, Southern Baptist thieves and Southern Baptist wife-beaters.... Catholic pedophiles, Catholic drunks, Catholic thieves and Catholic wife-beaters.... all of us are human and fall short of the glory of the God.

I don't think anyone would claim a particular religious community is made up of infallible members. I simply said MANY Mormons behave him in a more Christian manner than a lot of self-proclaimed "Christians" in this country. This doesn't mean they don't have their share of seedy Mormons.

>> Former LDS bishop arraigned, accused of bilking 'little guys' Is this the behavior that you consider the most "Christian"? <<

Of course not. By better behavior, I mean that studies have shown that Mormon families on average are much more likely to be intact two parent marriages, have less drug use, crime, adultery, and more weekly church attendance than the "average" Catholic or Protestant household in America. Those are the facts whether you like them or not. I am NOT a Mormon but it certainly looks bad among mainstream Christians that so many Christian families do not behave in a Christ-like manner. It's very sad that half of all marriages now end in divorce.

>> Even if it is, mormonism is NOT Christianity...even if "many" behave. <<

As I previously noted twice, I do NOT claim Mormonism is Christianity. They certainly aren't... but overall they simply behave more morally and Christ-like than a lot of self-proclaimed Christians.

In reality, "many" DO NOT claim Mormonism is Christianity. It's baseless propaganda from the mainstream media that only "evangelicals don't think Mormons are Christian". In reality, EVERY mainstream Christian denomination REJECTS the idea that Mormons are Christians. Catholics, Orthodox, and "mainline" protestant churches have ALL said Mormon doctrines are incompatible with Christianity. Mormonism is a polytheistic religion that denies basic Christian tenants and practices things no genuine Christian denomination would accept, such as baptizing death people. They claim Jesus is the messiah and divine, but so do many other non-Christian religions like the Bahá'í faith. Mormons are no more "Christian" than Hindus are.

78 posted on 12/30/2012 10:41:47 AM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy
As I previously noted twice, I do NOT claim Mormonism is Christianity. They certainly aren't... but overall they simply behave more morally and Christ-like than a lot of self-proclaimed Christians.

What kind of proof do you have to substantiate the "over all" claim? I have personally found that those who claim to be Christians behave more morally than a heckuva lot of mormons that I have known....and some of the most "morally behaved" folks I have met were Jehovah's Witnesses.

I guess when there is a sect that spends billions of dollars on TV and radio advertising proclaiming its "morality" and has thousands of internet sites doing the same some folks will buy into the outward appearance.

Give us an example of the percentages of "self-proclaimed Christians" vs the "superior moral mormons" that you personally know, along with a description of the location in which you are finding these examples. Thanks.

79 posted on 12/30/2012 10:54:25 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Romney's gift to the country....Boehner bowing to Obama while kicking the Tea Party.)
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To: stuartcr

To prove me wrong...


80 posted on 12/30/2012 11:31:02 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: stuartcr

You were interested because you asked...

You make my point again and again...


81 posted on 12/30/2012 11:36:21 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22

That’s not necessary.


82 posted on 12/30/2012 11:37:29 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: ejonesie22

??? I was interested in who he is, not what he has to say.


83 posted on 12/30/2012 11:39:58 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: greyfoxx39; BillyBoy
If Mormons are on a "higher moral plane" then the predominantly Mormon state of Utah should be heaven on earth.
84 posted on 12/30/2012 11:45:51 AM PST by fattigermaster
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To: fattigermaster
Utah should be heaven on earth.

Compared to the liberal hellholes on either coast, it is!

85 posted on 12/30/2012 11:49:34 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: fattigermaster
Utah should be heaven on earth.

Compared to the liberal hellholes on either coast, it is!

86 posted on 12/30/2012 11:50:00 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: stuartcr
I was interested in who he is, not what he has to say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM-G0bkl8MQ

87 posted on 12/30/2012 12:44:35 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Alaska Wolf; Utah Binger

AMEN!!


88 posted on 12/30/2012 12:45:30 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: stuartcr

What he has to say is part of who he is. Aren’t you the great one for exploring spiritual topics and such?


89 posted on 12/30/2012 12:55:10 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Elsie

Thanks, but now that I know who he is, I’m not interested in him.


90 posted on 12/30/2012 12:58:23 PM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: ejonesie22

Thanks, but I don’t find him very interesting.

Sometimes, yes, but certainly not at your direction.


91 posted on 12/30/2012 1:02:10 PM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

You are very selective aren’t you. Speaking of direction interesting journey you are on, seems to not have one, yet...

Very interesting...


92 posted on 12/30/2012 1:40:18 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: svcw
It is a long time resident troll... please don't feed the trolls

;)
93 posted on 12/30/2012 1:55:12 PM PST by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: ejonesie22

Yes


94 posted on 12/30/2012 1:55:43 PM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

I find him QUITE interesting!

It makes me wonder just how representative a sample he is of all MORMONdom!


95 posted on 12/30/2012 2:00:07 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: stuartcr

And yet you have time on this personal journey to grace us with your wisdom and insight in as much as it is. We are humbled...


96 posted on 12/30/2012 2:00:07 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Elsie

You address this to me, but you say him and he??

Why?


97 posted on 12/30/2012 2:08:58 PM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Bikkuri

Hence, the term “ta ta”.
Oh I get it, you thought I was calling them a boob.


98 posted on 12/30/2012 2:09:11 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw

lol :D

Best wishes for the holidays :)

Have a Happy New Year and Safe Holidays for you and your Family and friends!

Bikk


99 posted on 12/30/2012 2:14:00 PM PST by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: ejonesie22

As well you should be, but please, that’s not really necessary. I am flattered though, that you follow my responses so closely, thank you.

Happy New Year


100 posted on 12/30/2012 2:14:34 PM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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