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Catholics, Protestants, and Immaculate Mary
The Catholic Thing ^ | December 8, 2012 | David G. Bonagura, Jr.

Posted on 12/08/2012 2:24:39 PM PST by NYer

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David G. Bonagura, Jr. is an adjunct professor of theology at the Seminary of the Immaculate Conception, Huntington, New York
1 posted on 12/08/2012 2:24:43 PM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 12/08/2012 2:25:35 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: NYer
With the Reformation the integrity of Christianity is broken

Very true; and faith itself is gone. The Protestant faith is feeble coasting on the magnificent Catholic faith while complaining bitterly about it.

3 posted on 12/08/2012 2:34:38 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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Catholics, Protestants and Immaculate Mary
Why Catholics Believe in the Immaculate Conception
IMMACULATE CONCEPTION NOVENA [Prayer]
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"I Am The Immaculate Conception"
The Corona of the Immaculate Conception [Catholic Caucus]
Catholic Caucus: Immaculate Conception Novena Prayer Thread
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I Love that Woman! My Unworthy Reflections on The Immaculate Conception

LAND OF MARY IMMACULATE [Ecumenical]
Mary as the New Eve - St. Irenaeus
Mary - the Immaculate Ark of the New Covenant [Catholic Caucus]
THE LIFE OF BLESSED JOHN DUNS SCOTUS, Defender of the Immaculate Conception [Catholic Caucus]
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St. John Neumann and the Doctrine of the Immaculate Conception (Catholic Caucus)
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Saint Bernadette of Lourdes (Sermon from 1934)

My visit to the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception
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Why the Immaculate Conception?
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Why do we believe in the Immaculate Conception?
John Paul II goes to Lourdes; reflections on the Immaculate Conception
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Eastern Christianity and the Immaculate Conception (Q&A From EWTN)
Memorandum on the Immaculate Conception [Newman]

4 posted on 12/08/2012 2:35:25 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer
...the woman who gave the Word his flesh

(Sigh) Mary gave Jesus nothing that he didn't already have. He took it, without her consent.

There was no asking involved.

9 posted on 12/08/2012 3:41:23 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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Huh?


10 posted on 12/08/2012 3:57:11 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: fwdude

Mary got EVERYTHING from Jesus, good grief, did you forget that Jesus was God? The second person of the Holy Trinity?


11 posted on 12/08/2012 3:59:05 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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So Mary in a fictionous acount in heaven says things you do not even see yourself but from made up sources for a comic strip. You connect dots. How interesting. It is a belief. As beliefs go. Anyone can qoute scripture to their own purpose.


12 posted on 12/08/2012 4:15:21 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: NYer

Catholics ask Mary to pray for them. IIRC the Bible tells us to pray to the saints. Surely Mary is a saint. I would love to know that Mary was praying for me. That does not mean that I would be worshipping her.


13 posted on 12/08/2012 4:17:14 PM PST by abclily
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Well, you don't know that specifically for each prayer; that is always the case that not every prayer is answered:

You ask, and receive not; because you ask amiss(James 4:3)

You do know, however, that all saints are seeing us and praying for us:

And therefore we also having so great a cloud of witnesses over our head, laying aside every weight and sin which surrounds us, let us run by patience to the fight proposed to us: Looking on Jesus, the author and finisher of faith, who having joy set before him, endured the cross, despising the shame, and now sitteth on the right hand of the throne of God. (Hebrews 12:1-2)

another angel came, and stood before the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given to him much incense, that he should offer of the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar, which is before the throne of God. And the smoke of the incense of the prayers of the saints ascended up before God from the hand of the angel. (Apocalypse/Revelation 8:3-4)


14 posted on 12/08/2012 4:44:53 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: fwdude
"He took it, without her consent"

And hence the popularity of contraception among non-Catholic women who are afraid that non-Catholic men will imitate Christ and take what they want without asking.

15 posted on 12/08/2012 5:26:04 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: annalex

"I say, thats putting it rathah bluntly sir..."

16 posted on 12/08/2012 5:46:14 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Bluntly is the only way to evangelize the arrogant.


17 posted on 12/08/2012 5:52:40 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: NYer

Bookmark. Thanks.


18 posted on 12/08/2012 6:23:25 PM PST by nralife (www.fireholder.com)
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To: NYer
Thank you so very much for this posting.
I shall send it around.

To step out a bit here, these are the types
of things which we need to give fellow Christians to
help them to become more faithful, more certain and more courageous in their faith.

As a Catholic Christian, I need to grow in my faith and conviction, before I can become a more effective speaker of God's Truth and help to change our culture.

I am working on that. I need to. I have not given enough attention to my duties in life, as I, like so many Americans, have grappled with the sudden financial reverses that have come to us as we have seemingly lost our way after Ronald Reagan's second term.

Frankly, I believe that if we do not change our culture, we will see more painful election results, as we saw this November.

Economic theories, without an underlying moral cultural component, will not cut it.

Sursum Corda

19 posted on 12/08/2012 6:44:07 PM PST by Sursum Corda (Sursum Corda)
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To: fwdude
(Sigh) Mary gave Jesus nothing that he didn't already have.

Do tell. Jesus had a human nature before the Incarnation? So, on Christmas, we're celebrating that nothing much really changed?

He took it, without her consent.

Sounds like a criminal offense to me. Is that really how you think God operates? Sounds like something out of some other religion that's in the news a lot.

20 posted on 12/08/2012 7:07:21 PM PST by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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