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To: GonzoII

His features look more like that of a western European than that of a Middle-Eastern Jew.

I’ve always believed the Shroud of Turin to be a clever artist’s hoax from the Middle Ages, and this does nothing to change my mind.


10 posted on 11/17/2012 4:15:29 PM PST by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: Stingray

You might want to look into it a bit further. Try Ian Wilson’s “The Blood and the Sword”. It’s an interesting detective story.


11 posted on 11/17/2012 5:59:33 PM PST by WVNan
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To: Stingray

“His features look more like that of a western European than that of a Middle-Eastern Jew”

If he was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit and born of the Virgin Mary, then I’d say deconstructing hypothetical DNA would be rather a waste of time, wouldn’t you?


12 posted on 11/17/2012 8:14:45 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Stingray
His features look more like that of a western European than that of a Middle-Eastern Jew.

Have you ever thought of the possibility of western Europeans being of Israeli decent? The Bible says often in the Old Testament that they would be dispersed throughout the world. Maybe with a heavier concentration in Europe? Many races have those in their race that are lighter than others. The Jews of today look more like Europeans than any other race. Their detractors accuse them of not being real Jews because they look so Caucasian, without realizing that it is likely that many of the Caucasians are of the same decent. The name Labin, Abraham's nephew, Rebekkah's brother, and Rachel and Leah's father, actually means white. Names often denoted something unique about the individual with the name in ancient times.

17 posted on 11/17/2012 11:48:34 PM PST by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Stingray; Swordmaker
National Geographic channel featured a TV special titled "The Real Face of Jesus" that was a result of years and years of study and advanced computer generation that reconstructed a face based on the Shroud itself.

The Real Face of Jesus - Shroud of Turin used to create new 3D portrait of Jesus

The classic "x-ray" negative picture of the Shroud is incredible in that it actually contains 3-D information, like a statue that is hidden data within the image. Science is still attempting to get its arms around this as there is no other image that has a recorded history centuries long that contains such data.

At the 1:00 minute mark of this video, you see the Shroud an the almost Nordic classical features of the X-ray image of the Shroud. Many things were taken into consideration to produce the computer generated estimation of the face of Christ that ensues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2Ggxvgcx88&feature=related

What was produced was this image:

This is a much more an image of a classical Jewish man. there were some "gaps" filled in during the process. Hair, compression of the cloth, distortions caused by the cloth, etc. However, if you watch the entire 2.0 hour TV series you can tell that the team really did their homework. This was not an overnight process. It literally took years and years to produce.

I am not saying this computer generations is 100% accurate. However, it is my opinion that it is as close as we are ever going to get until we see Him face to face. And thank Christ, I will.

21 posted on 11/18/2012 9:31:35 AM PST by SkyPilot
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