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To: American Constitutionalist

Wonderful post American Constitutionalist! Thank you!


42 posted on 11/11/2012 5:56:18 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta (In the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Any Church that become less Christ centered focused, they become " Christ less " and him crucified is a cult.
The more they become " Christ less " the more liberal, worldly, and works based they become.
44 posted on 11/11/2012 6:45:44 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

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45 posted on 11/11/2012 7:30:09 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
The philosophy of the supposed Christian doctrine of " FREE WILL " came from the Greek pagan philosophy: autonomous; autonomy; independent from.

THE only time IF there ever was that mankind had any real " free will " was when Adam and Even chose to be autonomous, independent from God's grace and yet rather chose the law, the knowledge between good and evil.

They chose to be independent from, autonomous ( that's what " FREE WILL " means ) of God's grace and chose for themselves what is good and evil.

But ?
God had to set up his own standard " the law " to show what is good and evil, to show what " SIN " is.

Saint Paul said that he would not have known what " SIN " is if it was not for the " LAW " to show him, convict him of what is wrong.

But ?
The law can not, nor ever can be the means that any man can be made righteous or justified in God's eyes.

If ?
The law could have made man righteous ?
Justified in God's eyes ?
Then ?
There would have been no need of the temporary sacrificial system of the blood atonement of bulls and goats that had to be performed year after year.
ACTS 13:39

NIV

39. Through him everyone who believes is set free from every sin, a justification you were not able to obtain under the law of Moses.

KJV

39. And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.


Don't know how that Greek pagan philosophy of " FREE WILL " autonomous; autonomy, independent from, crept into the church.

God never called us to be " autonomous " or " independent " of him and from him... that's what free will means... to be autonomous from something, independent from.
48 posted on 11/11/2012 8:40:13 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
IF ? we could have been able to save ourselves ?
Then ?
We would not have need of a savoir.

GRACE and TRUTH came by Jesus Christ.

The law pushers and the works based salvationeers say " ohh but, but Grace does not give us a license to sin " .


The biblical grace that the bible talks about is none other than Jesus Christ.

Jesus is God's grace.


Now once again ?

The law pushers say " well, grace does not give us a license to sin " i.e. break God's holy law..

How can " GRACE " give us a license to sin when it was " GRACE " that came to save us and free us from our sins ?

Let me say that again:

How can ?

Grace ( God's grace is none other than Jesus Christ ) give us a license to sin ?

When ?

It was " GRACE " that came to save us and free us from our sins ?


Sorry to say this however ?

The only people who have a " FREE LICENSE " to sin are those who are not yet saved.
Those who are not yet " born again " saved by Jesus Christ because they are still left in this " SINS " therefore they have free rein to sin.

Ephesians 2
NIV

Made Alive in Christ 1. As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins,
2. in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient.
3. All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our flesh[a] and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature deserving of wrath.
4. But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy,
5. made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved.
6. And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus,
7. in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus.
8. For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—
9. not by works, so that no one can boast.
10. For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Those who are not yet " BORN AGAIN " or " SAVED " by God's grace, saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ are still dead in their sins...
Yup, they are still dead in their sins and trespasses against God and God still sees them and declares them as dead.
Therefore ? they still have a " FREE LICENSE TO SIN " even if they are trying to keep the law wherewith which that can not save them... only Jesus Christ can.

The law pushers are the ones who have a " FREE LICENSE " to sin because they sin every day like the rest of humanity.

OPPS !!!


Opps ! they can't have that revealed can they ? nope, they can't have any one see them sinning while they preach against sin.

What was it ? that Jesus said ? " he that is without sin cast the first stone "


Yes Sir'reee...


Those who preach most against sin and preach keeping the law are the very ones who are actually breaking the law and have full license to sin when no one is watching.


OPPS !!

They can't have that revealed can they ? opps !



Once again ?

How can the grace of God give us a " free license " to sin when it was that very same grace of GOD that came, loved us and saved us and freed us from our sins ?

Yes, those law pushers will also go on and say :

" well, well, well, but, but, but, you will be punished and condemned and judged by GOD for your sins " ....



Guess what ?


I have ALREADY been judged for my sins, yet in another person JESUS CHRIST !


Jesus Christ took our punishment that you and I rightfully deserved and God's judgement passover us because Jesus Christ is OUR passover lamb.


Christ took our punishment that we deserved, took God's judgement that we deserved

and God gave us,

God imputed Christ's righteousness, Christ's holiness that we did not deserve and placed it on us as his gift.


Romans 8 verse 1 :

There is therefore now NO CONDEMNATION for those who are IN Christ Jesus.



The walking in the flesh part ?

It means ?

Those who are walking in humanistic understanding,
human reasoning,
human " EFFORTS " to save themselves... i.e. WORKS, WORKS, WORKS.


Those who are walking in the spirit ?

Are those who are walking in the spirit in FAITH in CHRIST alone.

For " THE LAW " was weak in the " FLESH " ... yes, there is that word again. FLESH ...


It is talking about how the law was weak in the FLESH.

In the flesh as sensual ?
Sins ?
Lust ? i.e. sins ? no.


It means flesh is weak in human effort, abilities i.e. HUMAN abilities to keep God's holy law.
49 posted on 11/12/2012 1:04:52 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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