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To: GiovannaNicoletta
IF ? we could have been able to save ourselves ?
Then ?
We would not have need of a savoir.

GRACE and TRUTH came by Jesus Christ.

The law pushers and the works based salvationeers say " ohh but, but Grace does not give us a license to sin " .


The biblical grace that the bible talks about is none other than Jesus Christ.

Jesus is God's grace.


Now once again ?

The law pushers say " well, grace does not give us a license to sin " i.e. break God's holy law..

How can " GRACE " give us a license to sin when it was " GRACE " that came to save us and free us from our sins ?

Let me say that again:

How can ?

Grace ( God's grace is none other than Jesus Christ ) give us a license to sin ?

When ?

It was " GRACE " that came to save us and free us from our sins ?


Sorry to say this however ?

The only people who have a " FREE LICENSE " to sin are those who are not yet saved.
Those who are not yet " born again " saved by Jesus Christ because they are still left in this " SINS " therefore they have free rein to sin.

Ephesians 2
NIV

Made Alive in Christ 1. As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins,
2. in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient.
3. All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our flesh[a] and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature deserving of wrath.
4. But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy,
5. made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved.
6. And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus,
7. in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus.
8. For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—
9. not by works, so that no one can boast.
10. For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Those who are not yet " BORN AGAIN " or " SAVED " by God's grace, saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ are still dead in their sins...
Yup, they are still dead in their sins and trespasses against God and God still sees them and declares them as dead.
Therefore ? they still have a " FREE LICENSE TO SIN " even if they are trying to keep the law wherewith which that can not save them... only Jesus Christ can.

The law pushers are the ones who have a " FREE LICENSE " to sin because they sin every day like the rest of humanity.

OPPS !!!


Opps ! they can't have that revealed can they ? nope, they can't have any one see them sinning while they preach against sin.

What was it ? that Jesus said ? " he that is without sin cast the first stone "


Yes Sir'reee...


Those who preach most against sin and preach keeping the law are the very ones who are actually breaking the law and have full license to sin when no one is watching.


OPPS !!

They can't have that revealed can they ? opps !



Once again ?

How can the grace of God give us a " free license " to sin when it was that very same grace of GOD that came, loved us and saved us and freed us from our sins ?

Yes, those law pushers will also go on and say :

" well, well, well, but, but, but, you will be punished and condemned and judged by GOD for your sins " ....



Guess what ?


I have ALREADY been judged for my sins, yet in another person JESUS CHRIST !


Jesus Christ took our punishment that you and I rightfully deserved and God's judgement passover us because Jesus Christ is OUR passover lamb.


Christ took our punishment that we deserved, took God's judgement that we deserved

and God gave us,

God imputed Christ's righteousness, Christ's holiness that we did not deserve and placed it on us as his gift.


Romans 8 verse 1 :

There is therefore now NO CONDEMNATION for those who are IN Christ Jesus.



The walking in the flesh part ?

It means ?

Those who are walking in humanistic understanding,
human reasoning,
human " EFFORTS " to save themselves... i.e. WORKS, WORKS, WORKS.


Those who are walking in the spirit ?

Are those who are walking in the spirit in FAITH in CHRIST alone.

For " THE LAW " was weak in the " FLESH " ... yes, there is that word again. FLESH ...


It is talking about how the law was weak in the FLESH.

In the flesh as sensual ?
Sins ?
Lust ? i.e. sins ? no.


It means flesh is weak in human effort, abilities i.e. HUMAN abilities to keep God's holy law.
49 posted on 11/12/2012 1:04:52 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

I agree with you, but would just say that although we sin we do need to recognize it as sin and confess our sins to one another, and try to keep sin from our lives, but we can not change our nature or we would no longer be a man or woman, which God made us.

Also we are not to advertise our sins to the world.

We are told to keep our selves unspotted from the world.

Also a man who was known to be in an affair with his fathers wife. Paul told them to get him out of the church.

So an actual church member, that is some one who is involved in the teaching needs to show a good example if he don,t he should not be a member of the Church, that does not mean he is not saved, that is between him and God.

Being saved by faith does not give us a licences to sin other wise why would Paul tell us to pray continually, what would we be praying for?

We sin every day but we do not do it because we think it is not wrong.

A Christian can be tempted into sinning but if they are truly a believer they will be ashamed of it, they would not advertise it, it is only the unbelievers who are not ashamed.

I have not put any verses down because i am sure you know them at least as well as i do.


56 posted on 11/13/2012 11:19:08 AM PST by ravenwolf
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