Posted on 11/08/2012 7:08:40 AM PST by marshmallow
For the Catholic Church in the United States, the re-election of Barack Obama as president means serious trouble ahead in fact, nothing less than an accelerating two-pronged crisis.
The first prong of the crisis is that Obama is expected to press policies favoring abortion, contraception and same-sex marriage even more aggressively and coercively in his second term than in his first.
The second prong is reflected in the fact that, according to CNN exit polls, 50 percent of the Catholics who voted backed Obama despite his well-publicized conflict with their Church, with 48 percent going for Republican challenger Mitt Romney.
Further analysis of the poll data is expected to produce the usual, predictable finding that Catholics who attend Mass regularly are substantially more likely to stand with the Church than Catholics who don't.
Future of mandate
In any case, Obama's re-election leaves him at liberty to move ahead with enforcing the famous Department of Health and Human Services mandate requiring Church-related institutions like colleges and universities, charities, and hospitals to provide abortifacient drugs, contraceptives and sterilizations via their employee health care plans.
The mandate, part of the implementation of the Affordable Care Act otherwise known as Obamacare is scheduled to go into effect for Church institutions Aug. 1, 2013. Cumulatively huge fines will be imposed on those that fail to comply.
Obama in the past has said he would provide some form of "accommodation" to religious groups who object to the mandate on moral grounds. But he hasn't done that yet, and even if he does, the affected institutions still face the prospect of having the employer-employee relationship serve as a vehicle for things the Church judges immoral.
Only the possibility of action by one or more courts staying the administration's hand now seems capable of preventing this.....
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Start purging heretics. It’s been overdue for decades.
Not constitutional. RESIST.
There is another option....
drop benefits and raise pay accordingly..
make employees buy their own health insurance...
There is no bigger supporter of the welfare state and thus welfare state politicians and the Dem party than the Catholic bishops. They love this destructive system based on envy, jealousy, covetousness, bitterness and theft. They promote this all the time and then they say oh, no, don’t vote for pro-abortion candidates. Good luck with that. Choosing which sins are ok and which are not is kinda tricky business.
The Catholic Church has too many priests and nuns who believe in exactly what Obama does. The pope may say one thing but most Catholics do another. The Catholic Church is a huge believer in social justice. Sad to say but it is true.
The Catholic Church has too many priests and nuns who believe in exactly what Obama does. The pope may say one thing but most Catholics do another. The Catholic Church is a huge believer in social justice. Sad to say but it is true.
Tammy Baldwin is going to go after the Knights of Columbus. She says we are a Hate Group.
a smaller more devout church would not be a bad thing I agree
I have always had trouble understanding why people who do not follow the tenants of the church would want to be catholic...why identify yourself with something you don’t believe in
A priest friend of mine once told me these people belong to the “just in case” crowd that they really don’t believe in Christ as Saviour and the Eucharist but they attend church now and then to assure their salvation just in case.
I was once a knight, many many moons ago...
changed my tag line.
How many bishops, pastors, priests, and lay people will go to jail for it?
Not many. The Catholic Church has been paying for similar things in Europe for decades.
I will. Will any of you stand with me?
it is my (limited) understanding that this is not an option with obamacare. employers are now required by law to offer government approved health coverage or face ever increasing fines as a penalty.
would be very difficult to pay fines to the government and give pay raises...especially as the recession deepens
Do not say anything, just one Tuesday morning have all the doors locked, put the sick from the hospitals out in the street and lock the doors.
Let O’Bumbler take care of them. Many will die, such is life for the ObamaBots.
Obama would love nothing more than to shutter the church...then they can rely on him not the church
and it is not just hospitals it is catholic schools as well...
but...I take comfort that the gates of hell shall not prevail against the church of Christ
I have a better idea. Just shut all the Catholic hospitals down. Do not sell them. Just put out a notice that they will no longer be accepting new patients. Layoff all employees and watch how fast HHS has to back down. If all Catholic hospitals did this it would account for over 20% of the hospital in the US. It would not take long for the effects to be felt.
CT Catholics lost. And when you lose, it means your opponents are winning. So the Bishops and the rest of us got nobody to blame but ourselves.
They did not participate in the campaign. Only the discusssion of issues, no candidates. Ask for a show of hands at daily Mass. How many of you voted? Not much more than half.
And it would not be a landslide for Linda McMahon at any daily Mass that I attend. “Did not vote” gets more votes than Linda. I bet she barely wins the others and these are ... daily communicants.
I will also, though my wife said she will not in order to protect our child.
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