Skip to comments.Difficult Days Ahead for the Church?
Posted on 11/07/2012 6:17:28 AM PST by marshmallow
My remarks will be brief, since this is not a political blog, and I am not a political prognosticator. The American people and process have spoken. But a few remarks based on the election results, things I think of as undeniable facts for the Church, though you are free to offer any rebuttals.
1. The strained relationship between the Catholic Church in the Democratic party will continue and the strain will likely grow. The reasons for this are that the Democratic Party is increasingly aligning itself with positions that are in direct conflict with Catholic teaching. More of this in the following points.
2. Largely unrestricted abortion will continue unabated, as will funding for organizations such as Planned Parenthood, the chief provider of abortion in this country. Possible Supreme Court nominations will also feature pro-choice jurists. Likewise many Circuit and other Federal District Court judges will continue to be appointed who favor largely unrestricted abortion.
3. The homosexual agenda will continue to grow and receive increasing legal recognition and protection. This includes not only gay marriage but also, other issues in the Gay agenda such as adoption, and the general insistence that the Gay lifestyle be promoted in schools and other public settings. This will require Church opposition and generally embroil us in many public disputes. This may have continued even with a Romney win, but there will be fewer political hurdles for such agendas and the pace will be quicker.
4. The HHS mandate moves forward, untouched. Our religious liberty is in greater jeopardy. Well have to meet the administration in court. And while the legal basis for our grievance seems strong, recent experience in the courts has demonstrated that nothing is certain. Civil disobedience may be in our future.
5. Extreme debt seems likely to pile up. Well.......
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Boo hoo. With 75% of Hispanics voting for Obama, most of them Catholics, the church has no one to blame but themselves. Shut down Catholic Services and hospitals if you don’t want to pay for employees abortions. Because abortions are now a right, to be paid for by employers, period.
The Catholic church is one of the biggest supporters of illegal immigration, so they will reap what they have sown.
Persecution of the church by the state. From the looks of the results, I'd surmise than many members of the church put union membership above church membership. Speaks volumes.
Without the catholic vote, the son of a b wouldn’t have been elected the first time. I hope he taxes them out of existence.
The bishops brought this upon us. Decades of coddling openly-heretical, defiant, dissenting Dammocrap (and, in recent years, some Republican) politicians. Buying into cultural and economic Marxism. Execrable catechesis of the laity for decades and decades. Sheltering thousands of child-molesting priests, thus, at once, committing the murder of the souls of uncounted Catholics, creating scandal and division within the laity, disaffecting millions of lay Catholics. They are to blame. It is their crime.
But, just like with the priest-molestor scandal, we the laity will pay.
The Catholic Church’s flirtations with liberation theology based social teaching has caused this mess in the Catholic conscience. This is also pervasive in other sects in the faith. This is a painful lesson from God to purge the leaven of this false teaching from our midst.
Anybody know what the breakdown was for Catholic voters this time? I’m considering stopping my weekly contributions until the hierarchy whips some things into shape.
As a Catholic, the church has also alienated the center right moderates like me as well. When you look at how the sexual abuse situation was handled, coupled with the extreme position the Church has against women - not allowing them to become priests and/or as a compromise even allow male priests to marry (which they did up to 1000 AD), then many not just Dems throw up their hands. The Catholic Church survival relies on women (they are the ones who drive decisions on whether kids go private or public school and whether to go to Church on Sunday). My wife has become disillusioned with Catholic Church - hence we go to non-denominational one now.
That is exactly what the marxist want so they can take over operation of the hospitals "for the benefit of the middle class".
You know, as a muslim, Barry Benghazi could accomplish two things by doing that. He could effectively remove a barrier to muslim domination, and he could fill the coffers for more "income redistribution".
Protestants put him in office. Catholics were still very much a minority then as now compared to the total population.
this is also true of most of the Christian churches. The ones that didn't vote for Obama didn't vote at all.
LOL. Take it up with Jesus.
I said that too.
What then must WE do?
1) Be active in your parish.
2) Get your kids out of the godless communist schoolags, and teach them yourself at home. God made PARENTS a child's primary educators, not the State. We will have to answer to Him for our stewardship.
In my view, the Church just decided with this election to start “informing” parishioners about the immorality of the Democratic platforms. It should have started 30 years ago, even 20 years ago, but no, they were so enthralled with Dems like Pelosi & Kennedy that they didn’t dare speak out. They were quiet for too long.
Sanctity of life was just a talking point, not something they really cared about...at least not enough to start instructing people about it. The Church began sending confusing messages. The left has been pushing for the Church to change its stance on abortion, pre-marital sex, and gay marriage for a long time. This election is the first they began to fight back. Too little too late.
Until the Church decides to publicly denounce politicians who preserve the left’s agenda, it will continue to falter when trying to get an electorate to listen when it’s convenient. JMHO. I’m so sorry that I feel this way. The devil seems to be winning right now, but I take solace in knowing that Christ won the ultimate battle for all of us.
There isn’t a “liberation theology” in protestant churches because there are almost no protestant churches in South America, where liberation theology got it’s first hold.
I’ve been in several protestant churches as a guest, and the only church in which I could say I honestly heard something approaching “liberation theology” was the Unitarian Church, which is notoriously left-wing since the 60’s.
I hope the Catholic Church gets everything they deserve.
Which is to burn in hell.
You have no idea of what you’re talking about:
“the extreme position the Church has against women - not allowing them to become priests”
That’s Jesus’ “extreme position”.
“and/or as a compromise even allow male priests to marry (which they did up to 1000 AD),”
Never happened. Married men were allowed to be ordained. Ordained men did NOT marry. There’s a huge difference there. Even today married men can be ordained in some circumstances. Ordained men, however, cannot marry.
“then many not just Dems throw up their hands.”
Because they have the same apparent ignorance as you do.
“The Catholic Church survival relies on women (they are the ones who drive decisions on whether kids go private or public school and whether to go to Church on Sunday). My wife has become disillusioned with Catholic Church - hence we go to non-denominational one now.”
And that “non-denominational” sect hasn’t made you any smarter about what the Church is, what she does, or why she does it. Have you ever even tried to read the Catechism of the Catholic Church? Ever even listen to one Scott Hahn talk? http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=scott+hahn&oq=scott+hahn&gs_l=youtube.3..0l10.1838.3656.0.4012.10.8.0.22.214.171.1245.1810.0j4j1j3.8.0...0.0...1ac.1.9y_2tVKDuUo
Ignorance is avoidable. It just takes some work.
Very well said. You’ve stated my thoughts exactly.
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