Posted on 11/01/2012 6:45:48 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
How appropriate it is that Reformation Day (October 31st), celebrating Christ's victory over Evil for those who rest in Him, precedes All Saints Day (November 1st).
Martin Luther's defense of the authority of Scripture (alone) and of Justification by Faith (alone), at the Diet of Worms, is what we celebrate on Reformation Day. Without these biblical truths, which the Reformation re-established in opposition to evil church hierarchies, there would be no saints.
It's a shame that some Protestant and Anglican churches celebrate All Saints Day while failing to celebrate Reformation Day.
There are no saints apart from the principles of Sola Scriptura and Justification by grace alone through faith alone. What Luther insisted upon at this trial is precisely what condemned him, and that is the Gospel itself.
Continued non-adherence to these principles (outlined clearly in the 39 Articles) by Orthodox and Roman hierarchies, and yes, by hordes of neo-evangelical authorities, separates them not merely from the Reformation but from Christ. Luther's defense is as fresh today as it was then. Reformation Day is worth remembering. Here I stand.
There are no saints apart from the principles of Sola Scriptura and Justification by grace alone through faith alone. What Luther insisted upon at this trial is precisely what condemned him, and that is the Gospel itself. Continued non-adherence to these principles (outlined clearly in the 39 Articles) by Orthodox and Roman hierarchies, and yes, by hordes of neo-evangelical authorities, separates them not merely from the Reformation but from Christ.
Where in the bible is Sola Scriptura advocated?
And where in the Bible is “faith alone” mentioned—except in James 2:24 where it says, “See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.”?
Are you freaking kidding me? “Refomation Day” “biblical truths”
Martin Luther was possessed by the devil and his “reforms” were “deforms”. “biblical truths” my eye
It seems reformation day is here and you approve of it, but I think the point of super-saturation has been reached.
By Christ’s example.
If others may post freely so may Murphy. Or me, or anyone else, thank you.
Hail Mary,
full of grace,
help my horse,
to win the race!
Really?
Hmm--I always thought it was called "Easter"
This is yet another example of cultish devotion to a man-made doctrine rather than loving devotion to our Lord.
I prefer the objectivity of the Word of God and Scripture to the subjectivity of your statement “By Christ’s example”. Sola Scriptura goes against scripture and it is a contradiction in logic.
<< 2 Thessalonians 2:15 >>
New International Version (©1984)
So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.
You’re welcome sonny boy.
Take a peek at Ephesians 2:8-9.
By the way, where is it mentioned that a sinner like me can buy a ticket out of Purgatory?
All Saint’s day, Nov 1, was instituted by Pope Gregory the IV in the late 9nth century. Protestantism did not and would not exist for another 6 centuries and to this day has no relevance whatsoever on this Catholic Holy Day of Observation.
I can't wait to read your comments about the number of threads posted on December 25th!
Christmas is more important than r-day. But similarly nobody should be browsing the internet for articles about Christmas, on Christmas.
One cannot read Paul’s letters without being aware that the teachings he was passing on “by word of mouth” were the same as what he wrote about in his letters.
What did Paul teach “by word of mouth”? We need only read what he wrote. There was but one body of “teaching” and since Paul cannot speak by word of mouth, his teachings are passed to us by letter, Scripture.
The chief reason for attempts to create a second body of teachings, Tradition, apart from Scripture, is to validate unscriptural teachings and justify it by pretending an equal or superior authority to Scripture, a practice well illustrated by the Pharisees.
Just hold your hat in hand and with eyes downcast whisper,
“By yer leave, guv’nor, may I post?”.
Paul was not simply teaching the same things by word of mouth that he wrote about in his letters. Read the Didache or other historical documents of the time. The rules around baptism, celebration of the Mass, the Church hierarchy were all discussed in detail in the first century. These details are discussed in Scripture only briefly but were very well developed outside of scripture.
Remember, Paul often focused on what was going wrong in the Christian communities he was writing. His letters did not serve as a manual for behavior - that was known by tradition and by things like the Didache.
He can also do karaoke, eat 2 gallons of ice cream in a sitting or pee without lifting the seat. He certianly can, but nobody said its a good idea or that people will thank him for it.
Thank you for reminding me of #2 in the top ten passages Catholics butcher out of context because they dont bother to read the entire letter.
First Fabrications 3:10 ...
I don't do karaoke. Ever.
eat 2 gallons of ice cream in a sitting
Kroger "Moon Pie" flavor? Where's my spoon?
or pee without lifting the seat.
c-y-c, I think we've confirmed that W-b-f-a is a female poster.
He certianly can, but nobody said its a good idea or that people will thank him for it.
And you don't have to read them or post on them, either. And yet here you are, again!
Jesus had foretold the weeds springing up and Paul affirms this was occurring.
What sorts of behavior did Pauls letters overlook?
In truth I I've been more than half joking this whole time, so I'm slightly suprised you guys have got your panty's in a wad. Lighten up my sons.
The Eucharist was a scritural practice. It is discussed in scripture. But scripture does not describe the practice in great detail. The details were handed down by the Traditions that the Apostles wanted us to hold on to.
Evidently someone is seeking to create a Protestant Kwanzaa
I would further submit that approval or thanks from others is not the not the necessary motive for any action.
So post away, Murph! Nothing like an occasional verbal joust to keeps the wits sharp!
**Christmas is more important than r-day.**
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I’m not following your train of thought here.
“First Fabrications 3:10 ...”
LOL. Good one!
so here is what you have since Luther opted out of his faith:
a lot books of the Bible thrown out “because he, Luther, didn’t like them ..sola scripture my posterior... the only scriptura was the scriptura he liked...
a bunch of homosexuals and/or females are now RUNNING the new protestant “reformation”...
Luther didn’t like the sacraments yet his reformation has raised contraception and abortion to the level of sacramentum...
he and the reformation practically invented moral relativism...
but it is all good now...
yeah right..
Lurking’
S - ?? Im not following your train of thought here.
You might not be following, but it's definitely oncoming, and you're standing on the tracks.
Don't feel too badly. Only a select few can.
To say the apostles wanted certain traditions followed they said nothing about for decades after Christ's death is an assumption made to bolster the Traditions as somehow binding as Scripture.
You mention the Eucharist. Few details are given but those that are given provide enough detail to memorialize Jesus’ death, the purpose of the meal.
So where did the apostles demand certain hand movements and various pieces of special garb to be worn and just the right phrases to be spoken?
I am not your son, a fact that I am most grateful for since it is one of my few virtues.
Matthew 16:18-20
Jesus instituted a preistly hierarchy in His Church. He started by making Peter the earthly head of the church with the power to bind and lose. If Peter or future holders of his office choose to bind certain practices related to the celebration of the Mass then they are binding.
And it was an office He gave Peter - read the verses in Matthew then read about Shebna in Isaiah. Jesus was creating an office. On this the scripture is clear.
Acts 14:23
New International Version (NIV)
23 Paul and Barnabas appointed elders[a] for them in each church and, with prayer and fasting, committed them to the Lord, in whom they had put their trust.
You make an excellent point here, impimp, as this verse is an example of the Catholic sacrament of Holy Orders.
Peters use of “keys” was an affirmation of decisions already made in heaven. Both the record in Acts and the Greek that Jesus’ words were recorded in reflect that.
The word priests is not applied to any within the Christian church while on earth. None. As heavenly rulers they are termed priests AND kings.
Are you kidding? I've been laughing the whole time!
Talking to yourself?
Onanistic posting. Good job.
II Timothy
2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
Tradition can be refuted by DOCTRINE.
Acts 14:23
How do you account for that?
***He started by making Peter the earthly head of the church with the power to bind and lose.****
GALATIANS 2:
11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.
13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.
14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?
Tradition can be DOGMA and DOGMA is more important than DOCTRINE.
Your uppercasing has been countered by my uppercasing.
What is it there that you’re asking an accounting for?
And Peter did rule on circumcision and his ruling was final.
Acts 15:7-11
New International Version (NIV)
7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.
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