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1 posted on 10/31/2012 7:09:29 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
he [Luther] would not stand in favor of the vast majority of modern Protestantism.

I suspect many of the Catholic leaders of that time would not be in favor of the vast majority of modern Catholicism.

2 posted on 10/31/2012 7:15:25 AM PDT by HarleyD
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Always reforming w/o tarrying

What the original protestant actually taught

Slovenia celebrating reformation day

Do I sense...A slight competition going on here?

3 posted on 10/31/2012 7:26:55 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd
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“...today, October 30th, as Reformation Day.”

Wrong. Reformation Day is celebrated on October 31, today.


5 posted on 10/31/2012 7:43:34 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: marshmallow

“but they seem to ignore the many beliefs Luther also publicly affirmed that the same faith communities vehemently reject. “

Luther was instrumental in recovering the Gospel of Grace.

It fell to others to complete the work by examining the Scriptures.


6 posted on 10/31/2012 7:51:06 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Sorry, gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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To: marshmallow

If one assumes that Mathew 16: 16 - 20 establishes Peter as the head of the church, then one must also assume that Mathew 16: 21 - 23 establishes Peter as Satan. You can’t cherry pick the scriptures.

I am of the opinion that NEITHER assumption is true. That both are figurative and not to be taken literally. Further, the “rock” or foundation that Jesus is referring to in 16 - 20 is “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God”.

Just like in verses 21 - 23, Jesus is pointing out that Peter’s outburst is not according to God’s will. And since it is not in alignment with God’s will, it was inspired by Satan.


7 posted on 10/31/2012 7:53:32 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: marshmallow
Those who might be interested in Lutheran apologetics by a near contemporary of Martin Luther can download True Christianity by Johann Arndt (1555-1621) from Project Gutenberg for free. It's available in multiple formats for ebook readers, and HTML if you would like to peruse it online.

True Christianity

A Treatise
On Sincere Repentance, True Faith, The Holy Walk of the True Christian, Etc.

By the Venerable
Johann Arndt

I've been reading it a while now, and have enjoyed it, though I am not, myself, Lutheran. He has a strong emphasis on salvation through faith alone, and that any good works you are led to do are merely fruits of the spirit.

Here's a quote that I particularly liked:

Now he who is sincerely disposed to deny himself, must follow, not his own will, but the will of Christ, who has declared, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life.” John 14:6. As though he had said: “Without the way, no man walketh; without the truth, nothing is known; and without life, no man liveth: therefore, look upon me, who am the way in which it is thy duty to walk, the truth in which thou art called to believe, and the life in which thou art bound to live. I am the unerring way, the infallible truth, and the everlasting life: the way to immortality is through my merit; the truth itself is in my word; and life is through the efficacy of my death; and, therefore, if thou continuest in the way, the truth will guide thee unto eternal life. If thou desirest not to go astray, follow me; if thou wilt know the truth, believe in me; and if thou wouldst possess life everlasting, put thy whole trust in me, who for thy sake have endured the death of the cross.”


11 posted on 10/31/2012 8:35:28 AM PDT by zeugma (Rid the world of those savages. - Dorothy Woods, widow of a Navy Seal, AMEN!)
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To: marshmallow

The RCC apparently thought that Luther’s beliefs diverged enough for them to expel him for eternity from the cult of Rome. As a non-Protestant Baptist who never belonged to the Romish organization, and as a member of a church that never protested it, I stand amused at those who wish to “prove” that Luther was “catholic” in his beliefs..... which he WAS, except for his soteriology.


14 posted on 10/31/2012 9:51:03 AM PDT by Guyin4Os (A messianic ger-tsedek)
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To: marshmallow

What a load or manure. Even the first sentence is a lie: “by nailing his ninety-five theses—protests against the Catholic Church” in that Dr. Martin Luther was a loyal son of the Roman Church and didn’t “protest” in the 95 Theses, rather questioned the very questionable practice—according to other loyal Roman Catholic theologians of the day—of indulgences—that is the selling of peoples souls out of purgatory—that was prevalent at that time.

The term “Protestant” has no relation to Luther’s 95 Theses, it is rather a term given to the German princes formal protest against Charles V demand that Evangelical followers of Luther all be arrested, tried and executed—and all their books be burned. This pejorative name was given some 12 years AFTER the 95 Theses.

The totally corrupt, sexually perverted, Pope Leo X was in on the local indulgence Luther’s 95 Theses objected to—so naturally did everything in his power to stonewall Luther & his theses, to shut him up.

How modern Roman Catholics can believe such lying propaganda as spewed in this “Catholic Sisters” posting, I have no idea.

Must be why also the great majority of Roman Catholics consistently vote Democrat.


26 posted on 10/31/2012 10:36:33 AM PDT by AnalogReigns (because the real world is not digital...)
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