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Contraception is contrary to God's law: Why the Hahns became Roman Catholic
Catholic Education Resource Center website ^ | 2001 | Dr. Scott Hahn

Posted on 10/05/2012 3:22:55 AM PDT by koinonia

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From Wikipedia on Scott Hahn: As a young theologian, Scott Hahn was convinced that the Catholic Church was in error, and boasted of having converted some Catholics into embracing a purer Christianity. His conversion began when he and his wife became convinced that contraception was contrary to God's law. He was also bothered that the Catholic Church was the only Christian church tradition that upheld the ancient teaching of prohibiting contraception that Protestants abandoned in the 1930s.
1 posted on 10/05/2012 3:23:01 AM PDT by koinonia
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ping :-)


2 posted on 10/05/2012 3:28:59 AM PDT by koinonia (Virgil Goode for President - I'm not getting paid to promote him :-))
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To: koinonia

I am not Roman Catholic, and I agree that deliberately avoiding children is sin. I have been very guilty of this sin in the past, and asked the Lord forgiveness. He has blessed my wife and I with 11 children.

Yes, there are challenges, to be sure. There are heartbreaks, there are disappointments. But there are also victories and triumphs and many joys. We wouldn’t change anything.

See my tagline.


3 posted on 10/05/2012 3:33:03 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: koinonia

I think it goes deeper than just “unlawful,” because contraception says that God made human beings wrong ... that when He looked at His completed creation, crowned by man and woman made in His image, and “behold, it was very good,” He was incorrect.

This is not just a technicality, “You say tomayto, I say tomahto,” but an issue that profoundly affects and reflects our understanding of God and His heart towards us.


4 posted on 10/05/2012 3:34:56 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Optimism is much shallower than hope.)
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To: koinonia

Very interesting article. Wonder why Scott Hahn knows that the plural of Christian is Christians, but doesn’t know that he and Kimberly are the Hahns, not the Hahn’s.


5 posted on 10/05/2012 3:46:28 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Westbrook

God has really BLESSED you....11....how wonderful.


6 posted on 10/05/2012 3:46:33 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: koinonia

Very interesting article. Wonder why Scott Hahn knows that the plural of Christian is Christians, but doesn’t know that he and Kimberly are the Hahns, not the Hahn’s.


7 posted on 10/05/2012 3:48:05 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Westbrook
Your tagline is beautiful, but your honesty and humility are more so. Even Scott and Kimberly had to change their lives when they discovered the beauty of this truth.

God says, "Be fruitful and multiply;" IMHO it is the devil who says, "Be sterile and don't multiply (so I can more ready rule the world!)." The sinister Georgia Guideposts convince me of this. People like Ted Turner are publicly announcing (in the spirit of Margerat Sanger and Adolf Hitler, not to mention the global-warming crowd) that the world population needs to be severely reduced (95%!!!). Lord have mercy on our society!

8 posted on 10/05/2012 3:48:56 AM PDT by koinonia (Virgil Goode for President - I'm not getting paid to promote him :-))
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To: koinonia
I spent 10 years in Catholic parochial schools...and although abortion was the prime target to hate and revile and rightly so...we heard about not using contraception but it was never the pinnacle of our training...

Sorry...I'll stick to hating the killing of innocents lives, not the prevention.

as a pragmatist (and a confessed, lapsed Catholic), not being able to afford raising a child(another child? a 10th or 11th child?), then getting pregnant is a sure way to force early abortions...better to not get pregnant in the first place.

9 posted on 10/05/2012 4:07:39 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: koinonia

His tapes on the Book of Revelations are fabulous.


10 posted on 10/05/2012 4:10:55 AM PDT by STJPII
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To: kabumpo

That’s my mistake, not his. :-)


11 posted on 10/05/2012 4:42:19 AM PDT by koinonia (Virgil Goode for President - I'm not getting paid to promote him :-))
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To: kabumpo

Hahn’s. Tell the editor who wrote the headline, not the author.


12 posted on 10/05/2012 5:20:39 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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To: Vaquero
I understand your pragmatism, especially in the present economical situation and in a cultural that is not favorable to families that are consistently open to life.

Instead of being pragmatic, the option consistently presented by the Catholic Church (and all Christians prior to the Anglican decision at the Lambeth Conferences in 1930) is to be open to life, trust in God's providence according to the Gospels - like the lilies of the field and the birds of the air - and let God decide the number of children He wants to give to a family (instead of us telling God and human nature how many children we will "plan" to have).

As an aside, it's interesting that "birth control" is about not having births and, for many, not exercising self-control; so a sort of contradiction in terms. Likewise, "Planned Parenthood" is, in my opinion, better dubbed "Planned Barrenhood" because they certainly are not promoting having offspring. They definitely don't have a placard with this quote on it:

Behold the inheritance of the Lord are children: the reward, the fruit of the womb. As arrows in the hand of the mighty, so the children of them that have been shaken. Blessed is the man that hath filled the desire with them; he shall not be confounded when he shall speak to his enemies in the gate. (Psalm 126:3-5)

Just as a final thought, it is interesting to note that contraception and sterilization are, without talking about philosophy or the Bible or theology, just unnatural. I heard of a group of hippies who wanted to be "natural" and not use contraception and in seeking for others of this mindset the only outfit they found to hold their position was the Roman Catholic Church - they became Catholics and formed a lay Dominican community. (Sorry I can't find a specific reference, but it's an interesting story - not often that hippies make there way into the Catholic Church!).

God bless you.

13 posted on 10/05/2012 5:20:46 AM PDT by koinonia (Virgil Goode for President - I'm not getting paid to promote him :-))
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To: Westbrook

May God continue to bless you & your family!


14 posted on 10/05/2012 5:38:17 AM PDT by grame (May you know more of the love of God Almighty this day!)
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To: koinonia

she said, “I’ve discovered that up until 1930, every single Protestant denomination without exception opposed contraception on Biblical grounds.”
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interesting article. thanks for posting it!


15 posted on 10/05/2012 5:47:47 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Vaquero

not being able to afford raising a child
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i agree abortion seems a greater evil.
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but, the CHurch supports a couple delaying a child,
for serious reasons.
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and NFP, is 99% effective.
it simply requires a bit of discipline.
( and, the few days of abstinance, can actually cause couples to enhance their marriage, and treat it less casually.)
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http://ccli.org/nfp/effectiveness/index.php


16 posted on 10/05/2012 5:59:28 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: koinonia

“.. group of hippies who wanted to be natural...”

Ha!! In advising my own daughters I like to highlight the hypocrisy of the greenie/hippy crowd. The women are pro choice and pro birth control. Most of the college aged women are taking birth control. I enjoy pointing out the discrepancy involved in consuming only organic chemical free vegetables and then daily ingesting a powerful synthetic hormone that fools the body into thinking it’s pregnant!! And this certainly includes the ivy league types who are supposedly smarter than the rest of us! My neice graduated from Cornell and was brainwashed to be as pro contraceptive as most all who reside in the happy/hippie valley in Ithaca - yet she is a strict Vegan!!
Also - isn’t giving birth the most natural thing for a woman to do rather than kill her unborn child?

This seems a bit off topic, but consider this - Christians know that we are created by God. Therefore God understands our nature thoroughly because he created that nature. Our inherent natural reproductive qualities were His intention. The prevention/interference with this process is articifical and man made. At the very least this nce is interference with His plan implies a lack of trust - and at worst it is an actual sin. The saints know to trust God completely - just as Jesus on the cross had total trust in His Father - His will be done.


17 posted on 10/05/2012 6:01:08 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: koinonia

This has been a burden on my mind for the past year. The goalposts have been moved by the church in relation to the world. The world moves and then the church. Now, we are at the point, even good and sincere Christians get their daughters on birth control at 16. Good and sincere married Christians allow the wife to get the birth control injection which last 3 months or so with side effects. I am not innocent in any of this, my kids are grown, but articles the past year have caused me to talk with them about God and contraception.


18 posted on 10/05/2012 6:03:44 AM PDT by taterjay
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To: koinonia
IMHO:

I grew up in an all Catholic, Irish and Italian community in The Bronx, NYC. I saw many families with 8-10-14 kids. for the most part the kids were not regulated as well as families with 2-3 kids... limited resources prevented them from getting higher education and as they got older, they were doing stuff out in the streets that their parents had no idea about...because the parents were too busy taking care of the plethora of babies still in the house.

in the day of the family farm, where you ‘bred’ your own farm help and expected a good chunk of progeny to die in childhood, making lots of babies was not only common, but made good sense.

we do not live like that anymore...life expectancy is way up from the 1800s...power equipment does most of the hard work on farms and most people live in the burbs or cities....

it just does not make sense to breed like that anymore.

IMHO....

19 posted on 10/05/2012 6:06:50 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

It’s not “breeding”. It’s being fruitful and multiplying.

Your language shows you think we are little more than animals. Our language shows we believe we were created in the image and likeness of God and have a godly purpose.


20 posted on 10/05/2012 6:25:10 AM PDT by vladimir998
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