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Posted on 08/23/2012 9:57:37 AM PDT by NYCCatholic

Okay, another question for my awesome freepers...

Get this...a friend of mine recently attended a week-long silent retreat given by a congregation of nuns in the Northeast. I won't name the order. During daily Mass, the Priest allowed one of the nuns to proclaim the Gospel and give a homily.

Is this allowed? I was under the impression that only a Priest or Deacon can read the Gospel and give a homily.


TOPICS: Catholic; General Discusssion; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; gospel; homily; nuns; vanity
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1 posted on 08/23/2012 9:57:38 AM PDT by NYCCatholic
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To: NYCCatholic

guess it wasn’t really silent was it


2 posted on 08/23/2012 9:59:16 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: NYCCatholic

You are correct.


3 posted on 08/23/2012 10:01:25 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: NYCCatholic

Not allowed.


4 posted on 08/23/2012 10:02:13 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: NYCCatholic

You acquired yuor trogloyditic impressions during the Pre-Feminization Era. /sarc/


5 posted on 08/23/2012 10:04:22 AM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: NYCCatholic

Oh No!!! I am sure God wil smite them for that

Can you believe it? How dare they

Smite them oh mighty Smiter!


6 posted on 08/23/2012 10:12:12 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: NYCCatholic

Absolutely correct.

Some time back, I used to serve at Mass during the summer where we go on vacation. One time the priest came in, and explained to me before Mass that he had a sore throat and could barely talk. He could say the Mass, because it would be valid even if people couldn’t hear most of it. But he asked me to read the Gospel as well as the Epistles.

In the circumstances, I agreed. But I must say that I felt uncomfortable about doing it, and briefly explained to the congregation, who hadn’t been told, why I was doing it at our pastor’s request.

Absent such an emergency, there is no excuse for anyone but the priest or a deacon to read the gospel. Especially not a nun who evidently does so by her own “authority.”


7 posted on 08/23/2012 10:18:59 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Mr. K; NYCCatholic
It's not about whether somebody (imagined as a comic-book smiter) is going to smite 'em. It's a tiny example of a super-size incoherence.

Catholicism isn’t about private interpretation: it isn't a Burger King religion, and by that I mean a ‘have it your way’ religion. If they intended to end up in "my little chapel of preference" , their GPS is out of whack: they've come in the wrong door and sat themselves down in the wrong church.

It's probably pure ignorance: no oppositional- defiance involved. In that case, I'd like to be there to bestow on them a beamish smile and a heapin' helpin' of Remedial Catechism.

8 posted on 08/23/2012 10:32:52 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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To: NYCCatholic
Is this allowed?

No.

Write the Bishop and copy the CDF.

Can. 757 It belongs to priests, as co-operators of the Bishops, to proclaim the Gospel of God. For the people entrusted to their care, this task rests especially on parish priests, and on other priests entrusted with the care of souls. Deacons also are to serve the people of God in the ministry of the word, in union with the Bishop and his presbyterium.

Can. 767 §1 The most important form of preaching is the homily, which is part of the liturgy, and is reserved to a priest or deacon. In the course of the liturgical year, the mysteries of faith and the rules of christian living are to be expounded in the homily from the sacred text.

9 posted on 08/23/2012 10:52:07 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: NYCCatholic; All
Instruction Redemptionis Sacramentum

64. The homily, which is given in the course of the celebration of Holy Mass and is a part of the Liturgy itself, “should ordinarily be given by the Priest celebrant himself. He may entrust it to a concelebrating Priest or occasionally, according to circumstances, to a Deacon, but never to a layperson. In particular cases and for a just cause, the homily may even be given by a Bishop or a Priest who is present at the celebration but cannot concelebrate”.

65. It should be borne in mind that any previous norm that may have admitted non-ordained faithful to give the homily during the eucharistic celebration is to be considered abrogated by the norm of canon 767 §1. This practice is reprobated, so that it cannot be permitted to attain the force of custom.

66. The prohibition of the admission of laypersons to preach within the Mass applies also to seminarians, students of theological disciplines, and those who have assumed the function of those known as “pastoral assistants”; nor is there to be any exception for any other kind of layperson, or group, or community, or association.

Nuns like most monks, brothers and, obviously, laypeople are not ordained. Only priests are ordained.

If a nun truly gave the homily, the priest allowing it erred.

10 posted on 08/23/2012 10:57:34 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 74 days away.)
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To: Mr. K

Truth is wasted on the obtuse.


11 posted on 08/23/2012 11:01:50 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: newzjunkey

None of you peons are allowed to read the Bible. Ever. Only the Catholic High Priests are allowed to read and interpret the Bible. They will tell you what it says.


12 posted on 08/23/2012 11:08:05 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: NYCCatholic

One of the ding glimmers of womynchurch.


13 posted on 08/23/2012 11:09:45 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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To: NYCCatholic

I am guessing there is a dearth of young sisters and postulants in that order.


14 posted on 08/23/2012 11:11:34 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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To: NYCCatholic

I never understood why the Catholic church felt women didn’t belong in positions of preaching the gospels.


15 posted on 08/23/2012 11:16:01 AM PDT by CodeToad (Anticipate their arrival...they won't.)
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To: NYCCatholic

Not allowed.


16 posted on 08/23/2012 11:18:40 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: CodeToad
I never understood why the Catholic church felt women didn’t belong in positions of preaching the gospels.

1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

I believe that you all still left that in your bibles.

You are also aware that Jesus (God) only chose men as his apostles and the priests and bishops are the successors to them.

17 posted on 08/23/2012 11:27:48 AM PDT by verga (Forced to remove tag line by administrator)
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To: verga

I notice that Paul never had a problem with Pricilla’s sermons.


18 posted on 08/23/2012 11:32:15 AM PDT by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Hoodat

Pricilla was not performing a Mass, she was speaking to a group. The Mass involves the Eucharist. Nice try though.


19 posted on 08/23/2012 11:35:41 AM PDT by verga (Forced to remove tag line by administrator)
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To: sportutegrl

You forgot your /s/


20 posted on 08/23/2012 11:42:38 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Your sarcasm tag: don't leave home without it.)
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