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To: NYer

“We are judged and our eternal destiny is determined in accordance with our works.”

You believe that at your own peril because that’s not what Scripture says.

Scripture says, “Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.” (Romans 3:20)

And Romans 3:28 says, “Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.”


13 posted on 07/13/2012 3:40:57 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt
**And Romans 3:28 says, “Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.”**

The why did Christ give us the Beatitudes to follow from th Sermon on the Mount?

Happiness: Blessed are Those who Hunger and Thirst for Righteousness (Part 3)
Happiness: The first three Beatitudes (Part 2)
Happiness: Ancient and Modern Concepts of Happines (Part 1)
The Beatitudes: Blessed Are Those Who Are Persecuted for Righteousness’ Sake
Learning the beatitudes during Lent -- use your Rosary to learn the Beatitutdes [Catholic Caucus]
The Beatitudes: Blessed Are the Peacemakers [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
The Beatitudes: Blessed Are the Pure in Heart
The Beatitudes: Blessed Are the Merciful
The Beatitudes: Blessed Are Those Who Hunger and Thirst for Righteousness
The Beatitudes: Blessed are the Meek

The Beatitudes: Blessed Are Those Who Mourn
The Beatitudes: Blessed Are the Poor in Spirit
The Beatitudes
Lists Every Catholic Should be Familiar With: The 8 Beatitudes
The Beatitudes: Generosity and Happiness
Beatitudes by Bishop Fulton Sheen
Happiness of Sacrifice
The Danger of Spiritual Sloth [Reflection on The Beatitudes]
Satan's version of the sermon on the mount [Difficult read]
The Eight Beatitudes

20 posted on 07/13/2012 6:27:50 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: .45 Long Colt
You're own personal interpretation of Scripture, which violates Scripture itself:

"Understanding this first, that no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation. For prophecy came not by the will of man at any time: but the holy men of God spoke, inspired by the Holy Ghost." 2 Peter 1:20-21

"And account the longsuffering of our Lord, salvation; as also our most dear brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, hath written to you: As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction." 2 Peter 3:15-16

imperils your own salvation. The bottom line is that you have to walk the walk not just talk the talk.

"Who will render to every man according to his works. To them indeed, who according to patience in good work, seek glory and honour and incorruption, eternal life: But to them that are contentious, and who obey not the truth, but give credit to iniquity, wrath and indignation." Romans 2:6-8

"For we must all be manifested before the judgement seat of Christ, that every one may receive the proper things of the body, according as he hath done, whether it be good or evil." 2 Corinthians 5:10

"Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers be transformed as the ministers of justice, whose end shall be according to their works. " 2 Corinthians 11:15

"For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision: but faith that worketh by charity." Galatians 5:6

"For by grace you are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, for it is the gift of God; Not of works, that no man may glory. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus in good works, which God hath prepared that we should walk in them." Ephesians 2:8-10

"Wherefore, my dearly beloved, (as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but much more now in my absence,) with fear and trembling work out your salvation." Philippians 2:12

"Knowing that you shall receive of the Lord the reward of inheritance. Serve ye the Lord Christ. For he that doth wrong, shall receive for that which he hath done wrongfully: and there is no respect of persons with God." Colossians 3:24-25

"Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only? And in like manner also Rahab the harlot, was not she justified by works, receiving the messengers, and sending them out another way? For even as the body without the spirit is dead; so also faith without works is dead." James 2:24-26

"And I saw the dead, great and small, standing in the presence of the throne, and the books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged by those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and hell gave up their dead that were in them; and they were judged every one according to their works." Apocalypse 20:12-13

53 posted on 07/14/2012 5:59:02 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: .45 Long Colt

Catholics believe that Salvation is a free gift, this grace includes the necessity of good works.

St. James 17 - So faith also, if it have not works it is dead in itself.

St. James 20 But wilt thou know O Vain man, that faith without works is dead?

St. James 24 - Do you see that by works a man is justified and not by faith only???

Clearly sacred scripture takes both positions, as you point in the justified by grace passages. The correct conclusion is that Salvation requires BOTH.


73 posted on 07/14/2012 3:15:36 PM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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