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Bishop Robinson, You are reaping what you have sown
VirtueOnline ^ | 11 July AD 2012 | David W. Virtue

Posted on 07/11/2012 12:06:57 PM PDT by lightman

Bishop Robinson, You are reaping what you have sown

Why the Bishop of New Hampshire is wrong

NEWS ANALYSIS

By David W. Virtue in Indianapolis www.virtueonline.org July 110, 2012

When the openly gay bishop of New Hampshire, Gene Robinson took a private communication one of my staff sent him and made its contents public inside the House of Bishops this week, he opened a can of worms that he has only himself to blame for. No one asked him to do that; he did it on his own recognizance. He did not ask my permission.

The communication was about rumors swirling around that he and his partner, Mark Andrew, whom he had married, were having "relationship problems and were entertaining divorce." The rumor was that they had separate bedrooms here in Indianapolis. In his blast at VOL, in front of 167 bishops, he complained about the "public scrutiny" of his life, but did not deny the rumors about what was happening in his personal life. Robinson publicized his relationship during the election process for Bishop of New Hampshire by his public appearances with Andrew. When he was consecrated, he publicly embraced and kissed Mark to the roar of approval from some 4000 sympathetic observers. I know. I was there.

The obvious contradiction in this puzzling situation is that Bishop Robinson stated that he would like questions directly asked to him, yet when a professional journalist asked him a question, he complained at length about it in the House of Bishops, without answering the question.

He screamed, "I have had just about all I can take."

Really. What about all the incredible damage he has caused by his consecration nearly a decade ago? As a result of his lifestyle, the Anglican Communion has de fact split, tens of thousands of Episcopalians have left the Episcopal Church, hundreds of churches have left TEC, many have lost properties, and rectors lives have been ruined by revisionist bishops that support Robinson's position including the screwball former bishop of Newark, John Shelby Spong. One bishop, Bob Duncan, was literally thrown out of the Episcopal Church without a trial so he formed a new Anglican Church in North America...all as a result of Robinson's unequivocal need for his behavior and "marriage" to another man be accepted into and by the church.

All Bishop Robinson did in his rant was demonstrate a level of self-pity that was pathetic to watch, but clearly enamored his fellow bishops who rose to give him a standing ovation.

Robinson's constant whine for public acceptance of his sexual preferences, his infernal narcissism and self-absorption, his videos and movie Love Free or Die, his worldwide travels in the Anglican Communion promoting pansexuality has caused Anglican Christians to be killed in Nigeria by angry fundamentalist Islamist mobs, invited the wrath and scorn of Imams and Mullahs, truncated evangelism in the Global South, forced Global South archbishops to disassociate themselves from him and The Episcopal Church, and indirectly forced an Archbishop of Canterbury to retire early because of the stress of the job and his failure to resolve the unresolvable. On top of all this, the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches have declared TEC anathema.

Robinson vociferously responded to the VOL e-mail saying, "It is nobody's damn business. For nine years I have borne a level of scrutiny beyond what should have been and there is a limit to what one person could bear."

Well, Bishop, it IS our "damn business" because you have made it our business by spending the last nine years pushing your behavior onto the global Anglican stage. If your life is falling apart, that is just as much a part of the Robinson story as your promotion of sodomy. You can't have it both ways. You went public and therefore your life from then on was open to public scrutiny. The old saying is true, "If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen." You have been roasting orthodox Anglicans over an open fire calling them all manner of names from "fundamentalist" to "homophobic". Now when someone questions your miserable life, you get all uppity and hurt and utter, "Why don't they leave me alone and mind their own business?" Oh, my God, please spare us.

In your rip you complained, "You can question my motives for saying this. I don't know what my motives are."

Really Bishop. Well, I think everyone knows what your motives are. They are manifestly clear to everybody with half a brain: you want the Episcopal Church, in fact every church (judging by your appearance at Presbyterian Church assemblies) to accept your lifestyle as good and right in the eyes of God. You want to influence the Global South by manipulating orthodox Anglicans in Uganda and wherever else you can to fall down and worship your pansexual god, the god of mayhem and confusion. You have seduced the Anglican Communion Office and, indirectly, jump-started a ludicrously named "Listening Process" to broker pansexuality into the whole Anglican Communion.

Robinson pleaded, "Let's not talk about reconciliation. Let's attempt it." He begged again, "Can we try together? Please."

No, Bishop, we can't, that ship has sailed. You have done too much damage to this church and to the Anglican Communion for any reconciliation ever to take place. Nigerian Anglicans, the largest body of Anglicans in the world, will no more entertain having you in their churches than they would Jefferts Schori. She is tarred with the same brush. You are history. Get used to it. When you retire from TEC, you will quickly be forgotten, but your legacy will live on in Mary Glasspool and the SS TEC will continue to slowly sink beneath the ecclesiastical waves under the weight of its own bad theology and even worse morals.

The truth, as you and we know, is that all clergy and bishops in the Episcopal Church realize that spouses, partners, and children become public figures after the ordination of one person in the family. This is discussed in seminary and formally and informally at many clergy gatherings. Any relationship (dating, partnered, or marriage) becomes a public reality in congregations and dioceses.

So allow me, Bishop, to quote you some Scripture, even as you misquoted Scripture in the HOB.

St. Paul in II Cor. 12 writes that he will boast but only in his weakness (v.5) Then Paul says this: "...a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan, to harass me, to keep me from being too elated. 8 Three times I besought the Lord about this, that it should leave me; 9 but he said to me, 'My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.' I will all the more gladly boast of my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may rest upon me."

So how about it, Gene? Why did you not turn your same sex attractions as a sign of your weakness over to God that the power of Christ may rest upon YOU?

St. Paul again: v.10 "For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities; for when I am weak, then I am strong."

Why did you not turn your sexual weaknesses, insults, hardships, etc. into an evangelistic moment to demonstrate that in your weakness God's power is revealed and you are made perfect in Him?

As one commentator put it, "The strength and power of God more perfectly shines forth in our weakness and infirmity; as the more weak we are of ourselves, the more illustrious is his grace in supporting us, and giving us the victory under all trials and conflicts when I am weak. The more I suffer for Christ, the more I perceive the effects of his all-powerful grace, which sustains, enlightens, and strengthens me: the more also the glory and power of God appeareth in me."

v.11 "I have been a fool." writes St. Paul.

So why couldn't you be a fool for Christ, Bishop Robinson, rejoicing in your infirmity and allowing the God of all grace to minister to you and to work through you to heal others "in your infirmity and weakness"? The whole AA movement (of which I gather you a member) is built on people declaring their utter weakness and helplessness in the face of alcohol and asking God for help. In their weakness, they turn to a "higher power" and draw strength, not to say they are cured, but that they are being made perfect in their weakness.

But these are to be borne with submission to the will of God, for his power is more evident in supporting man under the greatest trials, than in freeing him from the attacks. --- Power is made perfect.

St. Paul concludes the chapter with these words: v. 21 "I fear that when I come again my God may humble me before you, and I may have to mourn over many of those who sinned before and have not repented of the impurity, immorality, and licentiousness which they have practiced."

Paul knew his own weaknesses, his "thorn in the flesh" whatever it was kept him humble, just as your sexual desires should keep you humble knowing how easy it is to fail. The truth is, Bishop Robinson, we are to glory in our weakness, we are to suffer "for the name". Your only "suffering" is the constant whine for acceptance, something the Great Apostle would have renounced. The list of sins mentioned here undoubtedly encompasses immorality, your own included.

The tragic truth is that you have become an enemy of the gospel. You have turned the truth of the gospel into a lie and souls are being lost. Episcopalians are being swept into a Christless eternity because of what you are pushing and pandering. One day you will have to be held accountable for that loss. May God help you.

END


TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: bishop; episcopal; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes

Vicke Gene Robinson, the homosexualist "bishop" of New Hampshire.

1 posted on 07/11/2012 12:07:09 PM PDT by lightman
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To: aberaussie; Aeronaut; aliquando; AlternateViewpoint; AnalogReigns; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...
In August of 2001 the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) estabalished a "Full Communion Partnership" with The Episcopal Church through the adoption of "Called to Common Mission".

Therefore:



Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!

* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.

Be rooted in Christ!

2 posted on 07/11/2012 12:09:16 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: lightman
...all as a result of Robinson's unequivocal need for his behavior and "marriage" to another man be accepted into and by the church.

I've come to the conclusion that acceptance is nothing more than a convenient cover for the gay mafia to split and destroy one Christian sect after another.

Division and destruction is their real agenda. No sect which makes themselves Sodomite friendly has ever experienced a long-term net gain in either congregants nor offerings. They have simply hollowed-out and desecrated a once positive organization.

Even those who have left these organizations have had to suffer. They often lose buildings and infrastructure and must start again from scratch. Congregants scatter to other sects which haven't drunk the homo Kool-Aid or quit organized religion altogether. But at least, they do not turn against the faith.

3 posted on 07/11/2012 12:24:10 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: lightman

The anguish this man has brought to the Anglican Church and its American portion, the Episcopal Church, will outlive him and his partner in sodomy. I hope that some day, Vicky Eugene Robinson will understand what he has done and repent. For those of us who have left the Anglican/Episcopal Church it will be too late to go “home, but, with God’s help, we will have found Christian fellowship elsewhere.


4 posted on 07/11/2012 12:33:17 PM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: lightman

Apostasy and heresy is rampant these days.


5 posted on 07/11/2012 12:34:40 PM PDT by MeganC (If you are hell-bent on delaying maturity you will likely succeed.)
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To: lightman

“Robinson’s constant whine for public acceptance of his sexual preferences, his infernal narcissism and self-absorption, his videos and movie Love Free or Die, his worldwide travels in the Anglican Communion promoting pansexuality has caused Anglican Christians to be killed in Nigeria by angry fundamentalist Islamist mobs, invited the wrath and scorn of Imams and Mullahs, truncated evangelism in the Global South, forced Global South archbishops to disassociate themselves from him and The Episcopal Church, and indirectly forced an Archbishop of Canterbury to retire early because of the stress of the job and his failure to resolve the unresolvable. On top of all this, the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches have declared TEC anathema.”

Why should those horrific tragedies involving our brothers and sisters in Christ bother him and his fellow travellers? After all I’m sure they think “IT’S ALL ABOUT ME!!!!!”


6 posted on 07/11/2012 12:38:52 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: lightman

I strongly dislike both this dude and our current presiding Bishop and the direction of TEC.

My parish is still pretty mainstraim though leaning a little left for my tastes and our diocese is conservative.

They have both done harm while smugly thinking they are doing good.


7 posted on 07/11/2012 12:44:41 PM PDT by altura (Vote Romney. He's our only hope.)
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To: lightman

I will give him credit for producing one of the most creepy quotes ever made by someone other than a confessed pedophile.

“God’s light and God’s life ooze
over me like warm butter.”
— Gay Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson


8 posted on 07/11/2012 1:08:13 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“get the butter” Marlon Brando in the movie Last Tango in Paris.


9 posted on 07/11/2012 1:12:31 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: altura
I strongly dislike both this dude and our current presiding Bishop and the direction of TEC. My parish is still pretty mainstraim though leaning a little left for my tastes and our diocese is conservative.

I hope you are aware that the Episcopal Church's General Convention just voted that each and every parish--including YOUR parish--MUST hire cross-dressing men or women who've mutilated their bodies so they can pretend to be their opposite sex ("transgendered"), right? That's correct, from priest, deacon, warden, nursery school teacher, volunteer or janitor....if a cross-dressing self-mutilator applies for any of those positions, you cannot reject them for the job on the basis of (that) insanity...

They also voted to institute "same sex blessings" rites (gay marriage). It may take a couple more years--but in your conservative diocese, your moderate church & priest will be REQUIRED to perform weddings for homosexuals very soon.

I don't mean to be uncharitable, but I don't care how terrific one's priest or individual parish church may be, or how honorable its history is... to continue any sort of affiliation with the organization (it ceased to be a "Church" a while ago...) of what the Episcopal Church has become...is to participate in immoral insanity.

10 posted on 07/11/2012 1:56:54 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (reality is analog, not digital...)
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To: ReformationFan
"Anglican Christians to be killed in Nigeria by angry fundamentalist Islamist mobs, " and "truncated evangelism in the Global South,"

May Vicky burn in heck for this...

11 posted on 07/11/2012 11:38:13 PM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: AnalogReigns; altura; Mad Dawg
ar -- I might be wrong, but I don't think it was that you "MUST". Though if it isn't MUST right now, it will be soon

I also agree with AR on the last portion. for a long time I advocated that ECUSA folks should stay and fight, but now I don't believe there is anything worth saving in the ECUSA anymore -- except for good people like you, altura.

12 posted on 07/12/2012 12:16:58 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos; AnalogReigns; altura
One of the “marks” of the Church is Apostolicity. This is about more than being able to “make” ministers of the sacraments. It is also about teaching, specifically about “authoritative”, which is to say “reliable”, teaching.

If the House of Bishops teaches, in word and deed, one thing about sexual ethics, and you and your parish teach another, something is not right. If your parish is wrong, your rector and the people should repent.

If the House of Bishops is wrong, then there's a problem. I know the Articles say that Councils have erred (and therefore obviously are able to err.)

If one thinks so, and if one thinks the Bishops in council can and do err (and a fortiori one’s own rector can and does err — even when he obeys his bishop) then you are like sheep without a shepherd. But IHS said to Peter, "Feed my sheep... tend my lambs," and he promised the Holy Ghost would lead the Apostles into all truth.

From Henry VIII and Cranmer to the present day, the fundamental theological problem (as distinct from spiritual problem) of Anglicanism is a broken ecclesiology. Their version of the Church is

The primal act in the setting apart of Anglicanism was the cutting of the mooring line. Ever since that act, Anglicanism has been adrift and has tried to persuade itself that being blown about with every wind was freedom and virtue.

It was heartrending — for a minute — to "renounce my orders" and to "abandon the communion." But almost daily I thank God that he gave me the grace to do so.

13 posted on 07/12/2012 4:53:52 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Depone serpentem et ab veneno gradere.)
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