Skip to comments.US Bishops: Ryan Budget Fails to Meet ‘Basic Moral Test’
Posted on 05/10/2012 11:59:02 AM PDT by marshmallow
A day after the House Budget Committee voted 21-9 to approve a budget plan proposed by Rep. Paul Ryan, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) renewed its criticism of the plan and urged members of the House of Representatives to put a circle of protection around three essential programs.
The entire House is scheduled to vote on Ryans Sequester Replacement Reconciliation Act on May 10.
I reiterate our strong opposition to an unfair proposal that would alter the Child Tax Credit to exclude children of hard-working, immigrant families, wrote Bishop Stephen Blaire of Stockton, chairman of the USCCBs Committee on Domestic Justice and Human Development. Denying the credit to children of working poor immigrant families--the large majority of whom are American citizens--would hurt vulnerable kids, increase poverty, and would not advance the common good.
The Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, formerly known as food stamps), provides vital food security to families during tough economic times, Bishop Blaire added. It is estimated that cuts proposed in this bill would deny assistance to two million families, and cut the benefit for everyone else. No poor family that receives food assistance would be unaffected, constituting a direct threat to their human dignity.
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Guess I will have to dust off my copy of the Catechism and see where it talks about essential government programs...
Butt out Bishops!
Socialist/Communist government murdered more than 100 million of their own citizens in the past hundred years, but I guess the bishops don’t consider that to be too high a number.
Maybe the Bishops should address how it is “moral” to use the coercive power of the state to extract wealth from one bunch of people in order to give it to another.
Robbing Peter to pay Paul, Bishop?
Charity is supposed to come from the heart, not armed government coercion.
Just some left wing lunatics who make me want to puke.
Pious b@#*^%^s who apparently think the high moral ground is to steal money from working people and hand it out to loafers, druggies, pimps and whores just to scrape up a few votes.
Ryan’s plan must be a good one if the Catholic Bishops are holy-kincker knotted.
And Bishops....is it not the Churchs’ duty to take care of the poor and widowed??? Step up and start acting like Christ wants you to. Care for the poor with the money that is tithed to you. Encourage your congregation to care for those less fortunate...but why put the burden on the government???
What's that? You would have enough left to build another cathedral? Tsk, tsk.
You are ignoring the difference between the freedom of religion established by the Constitution and the freedom of worship advocated by communists governments and the Obama administration.
Freedom of religion ensures that religious institutions can actively participate in the public discourse on a peer basis with any other secular organizations. We have a freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. The Catholic bishops have every bit as much right, representing the countries 64+ million Catholics, to advocate for policies and priorities in line with the Church's values as any political party, union, PAC or pact.
or something like that.
I am a Catholic, but the Bishops’ desire for social justice is what brought us Obamacare. How is that one working out for you, bishops?
I am a bit of a loss to understand... Catholic bishops act all indignant at Obama’s birth control/abortion pill mandate, then demand government provide MORE food stamps??? Isn’t there something in the Holy Bible about serving two masters? You can’t have it both ways bishops.
There would be fewer poor if the GOP and Democrats spent more time putting Americans to work instead of exporting their jobs to the rest of the world.
Forgive me friend, but I have see to many false flag operations. I expect a “compromise” in October letting parts of the Catholic church not follow the mandate, and a surge of Catholics supporting Obama.
I sure wish the bisops would supply us all with their backgrounds in economic training?
As Paul Ryan has already pointed out...he believes in his plan BECAUSE he cares about the poor.
Maybe the Bishops should ponder why these programs are in such sad straits. FRAUD.
The problem here, my friend, is that the economic policies and priorities favored by the USCCB are not necessaily those most in line with the Church's values, especially with respect to subsidiarity.
To say "we" must feed the hungry, shelter the homeless, etc. is morally right and correct--- if "we" means the charitable giver, the family, the parish, the Diocese, the community organization, Second Harvest, Food Bank, Soup Kitchen, the private philanthropy, Youth in Mission --- of which we have many in the USA.
But to say that "we" means "the State" is a distortion of genuine Catholic social teaching. Like the prophets of Israel and the Fathers of the Church, the papal and conciliar documents almost always refer to "society" having such-and-such obligations. "Society" is not a synonym for "the State." By "society" they mean "all of us acting justly and charitably," not "the State acting coercively."
The Pope needs to ex-communicate these communist Bishops who are actually “whores of the Devil”
The church along with the BISHOPS lose big time. These guys are supposed to have degrees of higher learning but they talk like naive children and wrong headed simps. Psssst guess what fellas...you keep aiding and abetting the socialist tax machines and there will be no money left with which to fund CATHOLIC CHARITIES..and you too fall under the socialist thumb. You will then have no power or money whatsoever to really help the poor!
WAKE UP...AND SHUT UP.
(another thing if you SPEAK IN A MANNER THAT DISRESPECTS THE COMMON SENSE OF FREE MEN THEN YOU WILL NOT HAVE THEIR RESPECT OR SUPPORT....TAKE MY ADVICE AND START WALKIN THIS CRAP BACK ASAP!)
Aren’t these the same guys crying about the gov. poking it’s nose into religious affairs and practices?
On this we fully agree, but to contend that the bishops do not have a right to speak simply because someone does not like what they are saying is absurd.
The bishops' pastoral authority properly involves faith and morals. The "speaking" (or "issuing of statements") which does not strictly constitute doctrine, however, should come wih a disclaimer along these lines:
"As Bishops we teach authoritatively on matters of the moral doctrine of the Church: the things which involve sins of omission or commission. These policy recommendations involve a choice between competing goods. You can disagree with our prudential judgments without sinning. Our political opinions do not have canonical authority."
"Thank you for listening."
The ‘Pubbies need to find out who the Bishops were and cut the tax exemption of their dioceses.
If only the bishops wouldn’t squander their moral authority on such things as are really outside their experience and expertise. When they make such pronouncements as this they lessen the seriousness with which many will take their pronouncements about marriage and the sanctity of life, subjects about which the Bible and the history of Christendom are utterly clear, and something about which the bishops, as all Christians, must be very firm in these dark times. Instead we hear such drivel.
In his Wall Street Journal column last week, on Paul Ryans battle with critics of his budget plan on moral principles, Bill McGurn quotes Dorothy Day: We believe that Social Security legislation, now billed as a great victory for the poor and for the worker, is a great defeat for Christianity. It is an acceptance of the idea of force and compulsion.
Yup. That Dorothy Day.