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1 posted on 03/30/2012 12:01:32 PM PDT by NYer
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As one poster astutely noted:

So while it is good, very good, to pray and seek the intercession of St. Michael, etc., and seek grace, etc., we should not go so far as to abdicate our own responsibility and say, “it’s God’s problem to fix.” We should not simply sit around bemoaning, “God, God, why won’t you do something?” but should go out there and do the job ourselves.

2 posted on 03/30/2012 12:03:13 PM PDT by NYer (He who hides in his heart the remembrance of wrongs is like a man who feeds a snake on his chest. St)
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From wikipedia

Distributism (also known as distributionism or distributivism is a third-way economic philosophy that developed in England in the early 20th century based upon the principles of Catholic social teaching, especially the teachings of Pope Leo XIII in his encyclical Rerum Novarum and Pope Pius XI in Quadragesimo Anno.

I am not a Catholic, but I am interested in Distributism. A lot of pro-freedom people do not like it, because it was elements of control/collectivsm -- but is was formulated as a response to the excesses of Socialism, as well as the excesses of the free markets. It's worth a look.

GK Chesterton liked Distributism. Hillaire Belloc liked it too. I think Pope Leo had some good insights into where the world was headed and what people were doing wrong. I think the 20th century had some good technological developments but was also largely a wasteland in many important aspects -- the road not taken might have been a better choice than the path so many people walked for the past 100 years.

3 posted on 03/30/2012 12:13:40 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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Why would God permit this?

If you are walking across a train trestle and you are more than halfway across, and you hear a train coming at you... you run toward the train. Because there is less trestle in front of you, than behind you. And so you can reach the end of the trestle before the train does, and then jump off.

Sometimes I think "modern times" (19th, 20th & 21st Centuries) have consisted of God making humanity run ever faster towards the train. And from the looks of things we're now in a flat-out sprint - and we can see the train.

5 posted on 03/30/2012 12:27:54 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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What has undermined the faith of protestants and catholics alike for the last two centuries has been the Arian heresy.

It came about as a consequence of Descartes Tree of Knowledge back in the early 1600 which showed theology along with witch craft as a branch of a tree whose trunk was philosophy—and whose roots were metaphysics.


7 posted on 03/30/2012 12:40:30 PM PDT by ckilmer
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“There was something about the 20th Century, something awful.”

I’ll take ‘godless will-to-power driven monsters’ for $200, Alex...


9 posted on 03/30/2012 1:26:54 PM PDT by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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That Violent Century

That violent race.

12 posted on 03/30/2012 2:34:22 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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I have no reason to doubt Pope Leo’s vision.

Certainly, Hitler’s improbable rise had occult roots.

And the devil’s attempt to wipe out the Jews was intended to forestall the end of the world.

I’m not aware of Marx or Engels having overt, satanic ties, but it’s certainly possible. Marxism was a bizarre, secular, anti-God, religion. It’s rise is difficult to explain in naturalistic terms.

It’s similarly difficult to regard the rise of equally irrational “sciences,” like the modern schools of psychiatry, behaviorism, Freudianism, and Jungianism, as anything other than diabolical. Jung embraced the occult.


15 posted on 03/30/2012 5:05:32 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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Don’t assume the 20th Century was any worse than the 21st may become. The 20th Century didn’t look too bad in 1912.


17 posted on 03/30/2012 7:01:30 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I think we ought to listen to Alinsky." - Gov. G. Romney (R), father of Bishop Willard M. Romney.)
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In one way it would not matter in if it was revealed to another. But then again because of the awesome obedience of this our Church Branch from the beginning of Christianity. The church with more followers than most has a built in everyday obedience called the mass. 7 days a week unique onto its own. Sometimes at lest twice a day Masses proclaimed with anointed prayers.

The prayers are so powerfully anointed in the spirit realm. I believe God was showing the responsibility that Pope Leo had being the head of the main church of christianity. He gave him a glimpse of responsibility for this world. Thus the Prayer of Pope Leo.

Also remember what is promised with Prayers.

It is an action word.

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Philippians 4:6-7

"Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus."

Look at what happen since Vatican council two minimized this prayer after the Mass. I go to a church named after St Michael. They say this prayer all the time after Mass. I met a Catholic at a coffee cafe. He tells me too conservative this Church. I told him if he is really serious he should leave all together.

How many are into the occult today. Did you notice the bad rock a roll and other music really got into the satanic music after 1962 when that Prayer was minimized after mass prayers. You got Black sabbath and whole load of satanic sick lyrics. I worked for almost a year in the Record World warehouse on Long Island NY. I would stock and put out records for each store for the day trucks. I never read more sick evil lyrics with reverse biblical language( Pro-AntiChrist) on dozens of heavy metal group's albums. It woke me up to how prevalent this became. This was 1984( No Pun intended to the Book). Now do you ever see tv with the horn hand signal during these concerts and the kids in the neighborhood today.

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I wear a Saint Benedict exorcism medal anointed with the oil too. When I go to a restaurant were a waitress is a goth or crystal wearing person they even flinch near me. I wear it open or when I eat I tuck it under my shirt so not to spill sauce or food on it. When they do not see it they know something is up too. Then these weird conversations. Just amazing. I can also tell if they are into occultic without the natural. You know like seeing obvious Goth or occultic jewelry objects. I also can tell when mormons are singing some Classic Christ word lyric Christmas songs without reading the internet radio station. They believe in many Gods not one singular traditional Christian. So when they sing it to one of many Gods. The Holy Spirit is not There. They do not believe 1John4 which is to test the spirit.

I was in the Coffee cafe with a baptist woman. Out of nowhere my audio Bible starts from the beginning of Jeremiah 31. I did not touch it. We both looked it up in our bibles. It has the first and second coming and results of the joy of God on earth.

We are in the last days. Christ even declared will he find faith on earth if I remember right.

Jesus guide and help us Lord! AMEN!!

18 posted on 03/31/2012 1:56:13 AM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle; be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray: and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host, by the power of God, thrust into hell satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.


20 posted on 03/31/2012 2:09:05 AM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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Complete Prayer to Saint Michael

The following is the longer version of the vital prayer composed by Pope Leo XIII in 1888 after his startling vision as to the future of the Church. This prayer was dedicated for the Feast of St. Michael 1448 years from the date of the election of the first Leo - Pope Saint Leo the Great.

Everyone is familiar with the first prayer below which was mandated by His Holiness as part of the Leonine Prayers after Low Mass. Below are both the short and longer versions of this poignant prayer which should never be forgotten.

Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle, be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray, and do thou, O heavenly hosts, by the power of God, thrust into hell satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls. Amen.

O glorious Archangel Saint Michael, Prince of the heavenly host, be our defense in the terrible warfare which we carry on against principalities and powers, against the rulers of this world of darkness, spirits of evil. Come to the aid of man, whom God created immortal, made in His own image and likeness, and redeemed at a great price from the tyranny of the devil.

Fight this day the battle of our Lord, together with the holy angels, as already thou hast fought the leader of the proud angels, Lucifer, and his apostate host, who were powerless to resist thee, nor was there place for them any longer in heaven.

That cruel, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil or Satan who seduces the whole world, was cast into the abyss with his angels.

Behold this primeval enemy and slayer of men has taken courage. Transformed into an angel of light, he wanders about with all the multitude of wicked spirits, invading the earth in order to blot out the Name of God and of His Christ, to seize upon, slay, and cast into eternal perdition, souls destined for the crown of eternal glory.

That wicked dragon pours out. as a most impure flood, the venom of his malice on men of depraved mind and corrupt heart, the spirit of lying, of impiety, of blasphemy, and the pestilent breath of impurity, and of every vice and iniquity.

These most crafty enemies have filled and inebriated with gall and bitterness the Church, the spouse of the Immaculate Lamb, and have laid impious hands on Her most sacred possessions. In the Holy Place itself, where has been set up the See of the most holy Peter and the Chair of Truth for the light of the world, they have raised the throne of their abominable impiety with the iniquitous design that when the Pastor has been struck the sheep may be scattered.

Arise then, O invincible Prince, bring help against the attacks of the lost spirits to the people of God, and give them the victory. They venerate thee as their protector and patron; in thee holy Church glories as her defense against the malicious powers of hell; to thee has God entrusted the souls of men to be established in heavenly beatitude.

Oh, pray to the God of peace that He may put Satan under our feet, so far conquered that he may no longer be able to hold men in captivity and harm the Church. Offer our prayers in the sight of the Most High, so that they may quickly conciliate the mercies of the Lord; and beating down the dragon, the ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, do thou again make him captive in the abyss, that he may no longer seduce the nations.

Amen.

V: Behold the Cross of the Lord; be scattered ye hostile powers.

R: The Lion of the Tribe of Juda has conquered the root of David.

V: Let Thy mercies be upon us, O Lord.

R: As we have hoped in Thee.

V: O Lord hear my prayer.

R: And let my cry come unto Thee.

V: Let us pray. O God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, we call upon Thy holy Name, and as suppliants, we implore Thy clemency, that by the intercession of Mary, ever Virgin, immaculate and our Mother, and of the glorious Archangel Saint Michael,

Thou wouldst deign to help us against Satan and all other unclean spirits, who wander about the world for the injury of the human race and the ruin of our souls.

Amen.

21 posted on 03/31/2012 2:19:10 AM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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22 posted on 03/31/2012 2:29:56 AM PDT by narses
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Thank you.

I see nothing wrong with assuming Pope Leo told the whole truth. We were not told that the gift of prophecy would stop after the birth of our Lord. We were simply told to beware of false prophets.


23 posted on 03/31/2012 3:33:26 AM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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Great thread as usual NYer!! Thanks

It wasn’t until I was in my early thirties and an elderly more traditional priest re instituted the St. Michael prayer at the church I attended at the time. I had gone to catholic churches my while life and had never heard of it.

I immediately loved the prayer, realized how profoundly it is needed, memorizded it, and even bought a statue of St. Michael for my house.


24 posted on 03/31/2012 4:51:28 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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Thank you for posting this article,dear sister. Having read large amounts of Pope Leo XIII’s encyclicals and letters ,I can see striking similarities in Pope Benedict XVI and Leo XIII.

Pope Benedict XVI is issuing this world it’s last chance to change on what Leo XIII foresaw will destroy it.

IMHO,I believe this all ties into the message of Fatima as well


27 posted on 03/31/2012 7:19:27 AM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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Well, if you want a date for a start to this time of tribulation, 1914 would be the obvious place to start. The only comparably significant event leading to all that totalitarianism was 1917, and that’s three years later—also in part the result of 1914.

So, if it goes on for a hundred years, that would put the end at 2014.

Hmmmm.

As it says, this is NOT an article of faith. But it does certainly echo the opening of the Book of Job.


29 posted on 03/31/2012 11:04:19 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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The first footage of a Pope, beloved Leo XII.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFUMb0I4vIU


38 posted on 04/02/2012 1:00:55 PM PDT by stpio
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