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Mormon Racism as doctrine, not merely folklore or tradition
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Posted on 03/13/2012 1:41:01 PM PDT by Colofornian

Mormon scripture: God curses bad races with black skin

2 Nephi 5:21

"And the Lord had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them."

Alma 3: 6

"And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob, and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men."

3 Nephi 2:14-15

" And it came to pass that those Lamanites who had united with the Nephites were numbered among the Nephites; And their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites."

Moses 7:22

" And Enoch also beheld the residue of the people which were the sons of Adam; and they were a mixture of all the seed of Adam save it was the seed of Cain, for the seed of Cain were black, and had not place among them."

Abraham 1:21-24,27

"Now this king of Egypt was a descendant from the loins of Ham, and was a partaker of the blood of the Canaanites by birth. From this descent sprang all the Egyptians, and thus the blood of the Canaanites was preserved in the land."

"The land of Egypt being first discovered by a woman, who was the daughter of Ham, and the daughter of Egyptus, which in the Chaldean signifies Egypt, which signifies that which is forbidden; When this woman discovered the land it was under water, who afterward settled her sons in it; and thus, from Ham, sprang that race which preserved the curse in the land."

"Now, Pharaoh being of that lineage by which he could not have the right of Priesthood, notwithstanding the Pharaohs would fain claim it from Noah, through Ham, therefore my father was led away by their idolatry"

Official LDS Church Publications Explain Racist LDS Scriptures

"The Book of Abraham is rich both in doctrine and in historical incidents. Of the latter the fact of the large influence (if not identity) of Egyptian religious ideas in Chaldea in the days of Abraham is established; the descent of the black race, Negro, from Cain, the first murderer; the preservation of that race through the flood by the wife of Ham--"Egyptus," which in the Chaldean signifies "Egypt," "which signifies that which is forbidden"--the descendants of "Egyptus" were cursed as pertaining to the priesthood--that is, they were barred from holding that divine power; the origin also of the Egyptians--these things, together with the account of Abraham migrating from Chaldea to Egypt, constitute the chief historical items that are contained in the book." - Comprehensive History of the Church, Vol.2, Ch.47, Pg.128

“From this it is very clear that the mark which was set upon the descendants of Cain was a skin of blackness, and there can be no doubt that this was the mark that Cain himself received; in fact, it has been noticed in our day that men who have lost the spirit of the Lord, and from whom His blessings have been withdrawn, have turned dark to such an extent as to excite the comments of all who have known them.” - Official LDS Church manual, The Juvenile Instructor, vol. 26, page 635

"We will first inquire into the results of the approbation or displeasure of God upon a people, starting with the belief that a black skin is a mark of the curse of heaven placed upon some portions of mankind. Some, however, will argue that a black skin is not a curse, nor a white skin a blessing. In fact, some have been so foolish as to believe and say that a black skin is a blessing, and that the negro is the finest type of a perfect man that exists on the earth; but to us such teachings are foolishness. We understand that when God made man in his own image and pronounced him very good, that he made him white. We have no record of any of God's favored servants being of a black race....every angel who ever brought a message of God's mercy to man was beautiful to look upon, clad in the purest white and with a countenance bright as the noonday sun.” - Official LDS Church manual, The Juvenile Instructor, Vol. 3, page 157

“For instance, the descendants of Cain cannot cast off their skin of blackness, at once, and immediately, although every soul of them should repent,... Cain and his posterity must wear the mark which God put upon them; and his white friends may wash the race of Cain with fuller's soap every day, they cannot wash away God's mark;...” - LDS Publication, The Millennial Star, vol. 14, page 418

"Their skin is quite black, their hair woolly and black, their intelligence stunted, and they appear never to have arisen from the most savage state of barbarism.” - Official LDS Church manual, The Juvenile Instructor, Vol. 3, page 157

"Is or is it not apparent from reason and analogy as drawn from a careful reading of the Scriptures, that God causes the saints, or people that fall away from his church to be cursed in time, with a black skin? Was or was not Cain, being marked, obliged to inherit the curse, he and his children, forever? And if so, as Ham, like other sons of God, might break the rule of God, by marrying out of the church, did or did he not, have a Canaanite wife, whereby some of the black seed was preserved through the flood, and his son, Canaan, after he laughed at his grandfather's nakedness, heired three curses: one from Cain for killing Abel; one from Ham for marrying a black wife, and one from Noah for ridiculing what God had respect for? Are or are not the Indians a sample of marking with blackness for rebellion against God's holy word and holy order? And can or can we not observe in the countenances of almost all nations, except the Gentile, a dark, sallow hue, which tells the sons of God, without a line of history, that they have fallen or changed from the original beauty and grace of father Adam?" - Official LDS Publication, The Messenger and Advocate (Mar 1835), Pg.82

"History and common observation show that these predictions have been fulfilled to the letter. The descendants of Ham, besides a black skin which has ever been a curse that has followed an apostate of the holy priesthood, as well as a black heart, have been servants to both Shem and Japheth, and the abolitionists are trying to make void the curse of God, but it will require more power than man possesses to counteract the decrees of eternal wisdom." - Official LDS Publication, The Times and Seasons, Vol.6, Pg.857

The LDS Church's racism isn't just from some isolated quote from one or two church leaders. The racist teaching from the Mormon pulpit is prolific and consistent over time. If God didn't agree with his prophets teaching these things in His church, then why did they continue over generations?

There's a big difference between folklore and Mormon scripture. When the president and prophet of the church stands at the pulpit and teaches the laws of God, that isn't folklore.

The list of "inspired" LDS Prophets that have taught racist doctrine from the pulpit is too large to cite here. But here's a sampling:

http://www.realmormonhistory.com/god&skin.htm

Some church members make the mistake of dismissing the racist statements of 19th-century Mormon leaders as "their own opinion," "not official doctrine," "products of their times," etc.

Those same church members assert that the only "official doctrine" is the Standard Works and official statements of the First Presidency, and that if some leaders said something that didn't come from those sources, it isn't "binding on the membership," and it isn't "canon" or "official doctrine."

However, an official statement of the LDS Church First Presidency issued on August 17, 1951, reads:

"The position of the LDS Church regarding the Negro may be understood when another doctrine of the church is kept in mind, namely, that the conduct of spirits in the pre-mortal existence has some determining effect upon the conditions and circumstances under which these spirits take on mortality, and that while the details of this principle have not been made known, the principle itself indicates that the coming to this earth and taking on mortality is a privilege that is given to those who maintained their first estate; and that the worth of the privilege is so great that spirits are willing to come to earth and take on bodies no matter what the handicap may be as to the kind of bodies they are to secure; and that among the handicaps, ,b>failure of the right to enjoy in mortality the blessings of the priesthood is a handicap which spirits are willing to assume in order that they might come to earth. Under this principle there is no injustice whatsoever involved in this deprivation as to the holding of the priesthood by the Negroes....."

"Man will be punished for his own sins and not for Adam's transgression. If this is carried further, it would imply that the Negro is punished or alloted to a certain position on this earth, not because of Cain's transgression, but came to earth through the loins of Cain because of his failure to achieve other stature in the spirit world." - William E. Berrett's "The Church and the Negroid People," pp. 16-17

Since it's obvious from this official First Presidency statement that church leaders taught and believed that people are born as Negroes because of their behavior in the pre-existence---

---as well as being from the lineage of the "accursed" Cain---

---and the "sign" of Cain's curse was the black skin and flat nose, according to church leaders---

---then the fact that Negroes are still being born by the tens of thousands every day tells us that the God of Mormonism has never lifted the "curse of Cain," despite having the priesthood ban rescinded.

Church members are terribly mistaken when they say that the "curse of Cain" teachings were "folklore" and "not official doctrine."

If the people of Jamaica can recognize the LDS Church's racism, why can't church members?

http://www.i4m.com/think/comments/mormon-racism.htm"


TOPICS: Apologetics; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: doctrine; inman; lds; mormon; racism
This author lists...

* Mormon racist "scriptures" still carrying the weight of the Mormon racist gods...These weren't "TOSSED OUT" in 1978. Mormons still pay for them to be reprinted & translated & sent out across the world...bad-mouthing & slandering non-whites worldwide...

* + Official Mormon teachings in official Mormon publications...Mormonism has NEVER repudiated it's own official teachings. It merely said in 1978, "never mind what we said before," and tried to move on.

That's not repentance; and it's not repudiation.

Therefore, before this issue becomes even more the rage once the MSM & Dems fully weigh in on Mitt Romney, it's time to do a nation-wide sweep and encourage all to address their Mormon relatives, neighbors & co-workers with the questions below:

Source of quote that follows: Noted African-American theologian and author calls out Mitt Romney on the Book of Mormon's embedded doctrinal racism and demands that he openly, honestly and fully repudiate it...

From Obery M. Hendricks, Jr., Ph.D.--author, affiliated scholar at the Center for American Progress, trustee of the Public Religion Research Institute and Professor of Biblical Interpretation at New York Theological Seminary:

“What I do mean to say is: “—1) that Americans of goodwill owe it to ourselves not to turn a blind eye to the possible implications of the white supremacist legacy of candidate Romney’s religious tradition, no matter how noble our intentions; and “—2) that Mitt Romney himself owes it to America to address the issue.''

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Therefore, let's not only single out Mitt Romney, but as Americans of goodwill we do indeed owe it to our nation to the possible implications of white supremacy of the Mormon religious tradition...we need to ask not only Mitt Romney to address these issues of unacknowledged racism and their part in supporting institutional racism, but also encourage our grassroots Mormon neighbors to address this.

We can ask our Mormon neighbors:

(1) Do you say that the statements cited in the Book of Mormon scriptures as cited by Dr. Hendricks -- found in 2 Nephi 5:21, 1 Nephi 12:23, Jacob 3:8 and Alma 3:6 -- are the very "revelation" of God?

(2) Do you testify to these verses that they are the "truth" applicable to all men?

(3) Also, do you likewise adhere to Lds Doctrine & Covenants 134 in its entirety? Is this "scriptural revelation" fully binding upon Mormons today?

1 posted on 03/13/2012 1:41:07 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: All

Truthfully, nobody gives a zhit about racism anymore.
When blacks and Latinos REALLY want to talk about racism, let me know, until then, IDGAF.....
Besides if the media wants to make religion and race an issue this time around, let’s go for it!


2 posted on 03/13/2012 1:57:28 PM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Colofornian

Its really telling when a white guy breaks down and cries like an peeved girl just because the racist doctrines have been tweeked a bit and now black men can be almost equal to the white guys in a white supremist religion.....

But Willard Mitt Romney did..

after 31 years of living a life of bigotry and hatred towards blacks...


3 posted on 03/13/2012 2:07:10 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Tennessee Nana
But Willard Mitt Romney did.. after 31 years of living a life of bigotry and hatred towards blacks...

Reminds me of the folks who tried to downplay George W Bush's alcoholism and blame it on his youth. The problem is that he didn't get arrested and lose his license for drunk driving "in his youth". He was 30 years old.
4 posted on 03/13/2012 3:37:36 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
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5 posted on 03/13/2012 3:45:18 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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place marker and yes this is the religion forum


6 posted on 03/13/2012 3:52:05 PM PDT by svcw (CLEAN WATER & Education http://www.longlostsis.com/PI/MayanHelp2012.html)
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To: Colofornian
When this woman discovered the land it was under water...

Now THAT was a really neat 'discovery'!

I would have merely discovered a SEA!

7 posted on 03/13/2012 3:57:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Colofornian
2 Nephi 5:21

Alma 3: 6

3 Nephi 2:14-15

Moses 7:22

Abraham 1:21-24,27

 



8 posted on 03/13/2012 4:26:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Colofornian

don’t forget to mention the “Inspired Version” of the Bible published and printed by Deseret.


9 posted on 03/13/2012 7:03:21 PM PDT by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain.)
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