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Michelle Obama Visits Fla. Megachurch; Urges Religious Groups to Fight Obesity
The Christian Post ^ | February 12, 2012 | Anugrah Kumar

Posted on 02/12/2012 5:14:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This Northland “church” is a couple miles from my house. I have no doubt the parishioners think it's a church but Joel Hunter is nothing more than a a left-wing charlatan that loves to get yanked by Obama.

The church sits across the street from a dog track that has been there since 1935. It took a beautiful field and instead of using some of their unearned millions in staying green like he preaches and building a parking garage, they paved over about 95% of the field. Then they bought a couple dozen acres from the dog track across the street and paved some more for additional parking.

Back in 2001 he bought another dog track that had closed a few miles away. Huge plot of land. Got it rezoned for a church (tax exempt) and demolished the dog track. Then the land sat, no effort to build anything. They applied for tax exemption and was denied, the county telling them to live up to the agreement, build their church and they can get their exemption. Northland/Hunter continued to contest the county instead of building anything.

Finally Hunter sued the county over the tax exemption. Judge ruled for the county. Hunter then made a “good faith” payment of his back property taxes and then promptly sold the property to Centex in 2004 or 2005. Hunter is lower than whale dung, the freaking hypocrite.

63 posted on 02/12/2012 10:45:33 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Obama's War on Prosperity is killing me)
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Paula Deen: Michelle Obama loves fried food and ate more than any other guest I’ve had on my show

First Lady kept on eating during the commercials

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047901/Paula-Deen-Michelle-Obama-ate-guest-Ive-show.html#ixzz1mF5NHKtO


64 posted on 02/12/2012 11:07:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: zorro8987; All

I would like mandatory too, but you know darned well that the manufacturers of processed foods would lobby agaianst it like crazy. While I love to dream, I like to propose ideas that might have some possibility of actually being used.


65 posted on 02/12/2012 11:35:48 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: F15Eagle
"Muslim community leaders are hosting sports tournaments to encourage young people to get active,"

When I played "kill the queer", it was with a football. (For you PC Nuts, kill the queer was like tackle football only it was one guy with a ball trying to cross a field without getting tackled...aka "smear the queer")

Muzzie kids have a whole different mindset.

66 posted on 02/13/2012 5:46:08 AM PST by hattend (Jesus wants me to make churches pay for abortions. - Barack Obama)
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To: VeniVidiVici; sheikdetailfeather; Bob Ireland
"This Northland “church” is a couple miles from my house. I have no doubt the parishioners think it's a church but Joel Hunter is nothing more than a a left-wing charlatan that loves to get yanked by Obama. ...Hunter is lower than whale dung, the freaking hypocrite."

Like all leftist "social justice" activists, he closely follows Alinsky's "rules" to realize his agenda. Pity the poor dumb sheep who sit in his congregation thinking that they're hearing "the Gospel", when in reality, like all sheep going to the slaughter, they are merely meekly and innocently exposing their necks to the slaughterer. HUNTER: "The good news (gospel) is that with God's help, we can stop global warming." (See below).

Like Jim Wallis ("God's DemocRAT") of Sojourners Mag., Joel Hunter (at Ohio University in the 60's) was a campus "social justice activist" in the Civil Rights movement .

Jim Wallis was tapped by the DemocRATS in 2005 to be their new "faith adviser"

Joel Hunter, formally re-joined that Marxist rabble when he became one of Obama's "spiritual advisors" in 2009. -- Pastor Hunter Visits the Oval Office - by Robert Andrescik on February 7, 2009----"This video from the White House shows scenes of the President with members of the newly created Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships. Headed by Joshua DuBois, the council’s 25 members includes our pastor, Dr. Joel C. Hunter. He, along with the other members, will advise the President on policy issues­both foreign and domestic­and help to steer government money to religious and neighborhood groups doing social service. --Visit the White House blog to learn more."

August 2009 -- "...One figure scheduled on the call, the Rev. Joel Hunter of the 10,000-member Northland Church near Orlando, Fla., said Obama needs to go through religious leaders to sell his message "because that's who has access to the vast majority of people in this country." HERE

JoelHunter: "As Christians, our faith in Jesus Christ compels us to love our neighbors and to be stewards of God's creation. The good news is that with God's help, we can stop global warming, for our kids, our world and for the Lord." Thursday, February 09, 2006 HERE

It was Alinsky for whom ‘change’ was his mantra. And by ‘change’, he meant a Marxist revolution achieved by slow, incremental, Machiavellian means which turned society inside out. This had to be done through systematic deception, winning the trust of the naively idealistic middle class by using the language of morality to conceal an agenda designed to destroy it. And the way to do this, he said, was through ‘people’s organisations’. Community organisers would mobilise direct action by the oppressed masses against their capitalist oppressors..." ~ Revolution you can believe in by Melanie Phillips Tuesday, 9th September 2008

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Alinsky scolded the Sixties Left for scaring off potential converts in Middle America. True revolutionaries do not flaunt their radicalism, Alinsky taught. They cut their hair, put on suits and infiltrate the system from within.”

While his ultimate goal was nothing less than the “radicalization of the middle class,” Alinsky stressed the importance of “learning to talk the language of those with whom one is trying to converse.” “Tactics must begin with the experience of the middle class,” he said, “accepting their aversion to rudeness, vulgarity, and conflict. Start them easy, don’t scare them off.”

To appeal to the middle class, Alinsky continued, “goals must be phrased in general terms like ‘Liberty, Equality, Fraternity’; ‘Of the Common Welfare’; ‘Pursuit of happiness’; or ‘Bread and Peace.’” He suggested, for instance, that an effective organizer “discovers what their [the middle class’] definition of the police is, and their language -- [and] he discards the rhetoric that always says ‘pig’ [in reference to police]. Instead of hostile rejection he is seeking bridges of communication and unity over the gaps…. He will view with strategic sensitivity the nature of middle-class behavior with its hang-ups over rudeness or aggressive, insulting, profane actions. All this and more must be grasped and used to radicalize parts of the middle class.”

A related principle taught by Alinsky was that radical organizers must not only speak the language of the middle class, but that they also must dress their crusades in the vestments of morality. “Moral rationalization,” he said, “is indispensable to all kinds of action, whether to justify the selection or the use of ends or means.” “All great leaders,” he added, “invoked ‘moral principles’ to cover naked self-interest in the clothing of ‘freedom,’ ‘equality of mankind,’ ‘a law higher than man-made law,’ and so on.” In short: “All effective actions require the passport of morality.” ..." Continued here: Front Page Magazine

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This is a helpful reminder that liberals have been fighting religious conservatives with religion­and not just arguments for church/state separation­since way before the religious left's post-2004 revival. [With the help of the Marxist / Socialist Jim Wallis and his left-wing Sojourners magazine] See: Discover the Network's profile of Jim Wallis

67 posted on 02/13/2012 11:03:28 AM PST by Matchett-PI (There is no reasoning with anyone deeply indoctrinated into the tyranny of political correctness.)
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To: All
"Leftism is actually the abstract articulation of the "economic psychology" of Stone Age man. There is nothing new about it, which is why we see so much "born again paganism" associated with it -- the cult of the body, the exaltation of the senses, barbaric art forms, the vapid mystagogy of the "new age," the Obamessiah, etc.

"...one of the less flattering characteristics of human beings is that there is no gift so miraculous, no grace so bountiful, that they cannot take it for granted. As such, another trait of the leftist -- as we all know -- is the conspicuous absence of gratitude, for gratitude is another spiritual value that doesn't come naturally to human beings. ..."

"..At least when the Messiah of Mediocrity has finished destroying the engine of economic progress and imposing his idea of "fairness," there will be no one left to envy.

"The Stone Age Economics of the Left: WHO WOULD JESUS BAIL OUT?

BTTT

68 posted on 02/13/2012 11:21:04 AM PST by Matchett-PI (There is no reasoning with anyone deeply indoctrinated into the tyranny of political correctness.)
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To: cloudmountain
I like the way she parks her fat ass in some body’s kitchen for a free meal. What freak show.
69 posted on 02/13/2012 11:45:19 AM PST by angcat (NEW YORK YANKEES!)
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"I like the way she parks her fat ass in some body’s kitchen for a free meal. What freak show."

Everything that looks "fat" is her husband's fault. This is her bumpersticker:


70 posted on 02/13/2012 11:55:04 AM PST by Matchett-PI (There is no reasoning with anyone deeply indoctrinated into the tyranny of political correctness.)
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To: Matchett-PI
I just can't get over this women. She is such a loser. Who is her adviser and who makes these stupid decisions for her. She is so embarrassing.
71 posted on 02/13/2012 12:07:41 PM PST by angcat (NEW YORK YANKEES!)
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To: mkjessup
"...SPEAKING of that joker Osteen, here is what that charlatan and his wife had to say about 0bama on Larry King back in 2009: [snip]..In my opinion, those two enablers of the twin frauds in the White House should be banned from FR based on that alone."

" [Atheist] Lobdell says that he came to religion in 1989, when "I was 28 and my first son was less than a year old. I had managed to nearly ruin my marriage (the second one) and didn’t think I’d do much better as a father. I was profoundly lost." A friend suggested that he needed God in his life, and recommended that he attend one of those "mega-churches" that are devoid of either intelligence or barakah, but which rake in millions by fleecing their flocks.

"Now, if this were the only kind of religion that existed, I can assure you that I would be an atheist, probably a militant one. Again, the intellect can only assent to what it believes to be true, and for mine to assent to Paul and Jan Crouch, or Bennie Hinn, or Joel Osteen, or Tammie Faye Baker, I would have to be brain damaged (and I don't intend to give the brain-damaged a bad name). I don't even consider these people religious per se, any more than I consider most of what calls itself art to have any right to the name. Yes, some religiosity inevitably gets tossed into the mix, and I am quite sure that many decent people get involved in this kind of thing, but their decency -- or God's mercy -- protects them from becoming completely lost and deceived. I place these people in same category as Deepak Chopra and his ilk. Just two sides of the same coin mint. ..."

On Keeping Faith Alive: The Intellect Doesn't Slump

72 posted on 02/13/2012 12:08:24 PM PST by Matchett-PI (There is no reasoning with anyone deeply indoctrinated into the tyranny of political correctness.)
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To: Nachum

Has Moochelle ever looked in her own mirror? She should start her lecturing to herself.


73 posted on 02/13/2012 1:29:52 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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White House seeks to soothe concerns over contraception rule
By Peter Wallsten and Sandhya Somashekhar, Published: February 7, 2012

“There are conversations right now to arrange a meeting to talk with folks about how this policy can be nuanced,” said Joel C. Hunter, a Florida megachurch pastor who has grown personally close to Obama and advised his White House on religious issues. “This is so fixable, and we just want to get into the conversation.” ....

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Hunter and several other outside Obama advisers reject the charge that the president is anti-religion, but they say the Health and Human Services rule was a policy mistake..

Noooo kidding.

"The left confuses their contortions with "nuance," but nuance is simply the left left brain's feeble attempt to keep reality at bay, which inevitably seeps in through the walls, ceilings, and floorboards."

Here:

"Unintelligent people are usually just plain wrong, so we don't have to worry much about them. On the other hand, in order to attain truly deep stupidity, one must generally be of above average intelligence. Therefore, in a certain very real sense, intelligence does not vary inversely with stupidity, but directly with it. Not for nothing has it been said that so much philosophy is simply "error on a grandiose scale."

A prime example of deep stupidity and grandiose error is Marxism and all of its many polluted streams, branches, creeks and crocks. That variants of this falsehood still proliferate on the left today means that, as always, intelligence alone is no unknowculation against evil, darkness, and error. Hardly.

For conservative "classical" liberals, we are generally faced with an odious choice between the stupid party and the evil party.

We generally align ourselves with the former, since the former is at least susceptible to our influence, whereas the latter is not.

[.............]

"...the fundamental truths are always accessible, but they could not be imposed on those who refuse to take them into consideration."

Among other responses, truth engenders a dynamic sense of veneration -- a sense of the sacred. And this is why you will have noticed that the left attempts to surround so many of its moldy lies with the penumbra of sanctity. But the sanctity is entirely bogus -- it readily slides into the sanctimony that is intrinsic to the left. In a perverse way, this sanctimoniousness answers the human need for the sacred, but in an alternatively crudely sentimental or authoritarian manner enforced by the many varieties political correctness. (You will notice that the left's confusion of sentimentality with moral/religious depth is just as evident as their totalitarian mind control; they are not opposites but complementary -- like Hitler's sentimental love of dogs.)

This is why the left doesn't really have ideas but icons -- including "iconic ideas." It is an insidious and sinister process, because there is great psychological pressure on all us of to bow down before these false gods, as if they were actually sacred (for example, the many fawning MSM tributes to "the Goreacle"). And there is absolutely no symmetry in this.

For example, if a conservative steps in one of the left's many sacred cowpies, there is a good chance that his career will be ruined. But if a leftist offends what is actually sacred, he will be praised as someone who "speaks truth to power."

It is inconceivable that the media would trot out some moral equivalent of Christopher Hitchens to blast Martin Luther King on the occasion of his death because of the latter's embrace of dangerous socialist ideas. For one thing, few conservatives are so tasteless, not to mention enraged.

The point is that nearly every one of the leftists's core beliefs is not a proper idea but an icon, whether it is manmade global warming, being "for the little guy," affirmative action, abortion, homosexual behavior, "peace," "progress," multiculturalism, diversity -- in fact, "progressive" is the quintessence of a meaningless icon, since it bears no relationship to progress and promotes economic and social policies that ensure not just a lack of progress, but regression. For example, the "peace movement" can only bring about more war, just as affirmative action can only bring about harm to blacks.

And this is why it is so easy to be a conservative, because you no longer have to contort yourself with so many lies in order to be thoroughly consistent, both internally and externally. The left confuses their contortions with "nuance," but nuance is simply the left left brain's feeble attempt to keep reality at bay, which inevitably seeps in through the walls, ceilings, and floorboards. ........."

Deep Stupidity and the Medicine for a Nightmare ~ Robert W. Godwin, Ph.D (forensic clinical psychologist)

74 posted on 02/13/2012 2:10:17 PM PST by Matchett-PI (There is no reasoning with anyone deeply indoctrinated into the tyranny of political correctness.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Michelle takes her “Let’s Move” initiative deep within the bowels of a megachurch.


75 posted on 02/14/2012 5:26:12 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The author:


76 posted on 02/14/2012 5:31:34 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When she concluded, she said, “And please disregard my fat ass and those pictures of me shoving mega cheeseburgers into my pie hole.”

Then they sang, “Just As I Am”, gave the invitation, the benediction and everyone headed off for Cracker Barrel.


77 posted on 02/14/2012 5:37:43 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Don't blame me; I voted for the American.)
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"When she concluded, she said, “And please disregard my fat ass and those pictures of me shoving mega cheeseburgers into my pie hole.” Then they sang, “Just As I Am”, gave the invitation, the benediction and everyone headed off for Cracker Barrel."

Heading off to Cracker Barrel


78 posted on 02/14/2012 6:15:55 AM PST by Matchett-PI (There is no reasoning with anyone deeply indoctrinated into the tyranny of political correctness.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I saw on the news that kids are fighting MO’s ban on junk food in schools.They have a black market of Little Debbies. LOL.


79 posted on 02/14/2012 6:20:26 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Matchett-PI

Check out Hussein checking out her very unfortunate panty line and butt. It looks like he’s saying, “eeewwww!”.

BTW, the outfits Mooseshelle and the urchins have on are things that we’d burn if someone dropped them off at our thrift shop. Don’t they make us proud to be Americans?


80 posted on 02/14/2012 6:26:15 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Don't blame me; I voted for the American.)
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