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To: Theo

“Yes, I know what the Roman Catholic Church teaches regarding NFP.”

No, you don’t, which is why I corrected you before.

“in practice, it is used to avoid having children.”

Again, not true, as many faithful Catholics use it to help them conceive.

“In other words, NFP is in most cases just another form of birth control.”

Except that it isn’t. This is what you are not getting. Is choosing to wait until you get married a form of ‘birth control’? No. Choosing not to have sex is not the same as contraception.

“So you’re equating those who use NFP and other forms of birth control with homosexual sex?”

FFS.

That’s three times you’ve failed to successfully quote my argument. I am arguing that married men and women who engage in CONTRACEPTIVE or STERILIZED sex are separating SEX from PROCREATION, just as in homosexuality.

“In your world, would you require severely depressed wives, and wives with life-threatening physical problems, to either avoid sexual relations or contraception?”

Give me an example of a condition where a woman would be in serious danger of dying if she were to get pregnant.

“You would require them to potentially become pregnant, despite the dangers? Kinda legalistic and heartless, don’t you think?”

Why would I require of them to do anything? They can simply abstain from sex. Or is that not an option to you?


68 posted on 10/26/2011 2:00:51 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: BenKenobi

Married couples, according to you, “can simply abstain from sex. Or is that not an option to you?”

No, it’s not an option. Scripture is very clear: “Do not deprive one another, EXCEPT perhaps by agreement for a LIMITED time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but THEN come together again ...” (1 Cor. 7:5).

Your stance is unbiblical. Indeed, your stance is anti-biblical. It is against the clear teaching of Scripture to dictate that husband and wife not enjoy sexual intercourse on a regular basis.

Furthermore, this passage shows that sexual intercourse isn’t all about procreation, but about fulfilling each other’s relational desires. Procreation isn’t mentioned at all in that section of Scripture.

I ask again: Should a wife past menopause cease to engage in sexual intercourse with her husband because there is no chance she’ll become pregnant? They’d be “doing it” for some reason other than procreation ...


106 posted on 10/27/2011 8:04:04 AM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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