LOL. Jesus didn't come to Earth to be your buddy.
There is NO argument for homo’s in the church. They don’t belong there, unless it is to confess their sins and try to find that unlit crooked path we are to follow.
Using this logic you can justify anything. Simply condemn anything in the bible that does not validate your personal opinion as “savage text”.
Sorry, a correction to what I’m written:
(text that renders scripture holy)= (text that renders scripture unholy)
Jesus spoke of hell and its reality more than everyone else in the Bible combined. How does this square with the author’s concept of the “loving character” Jesus?
Churches or societies should not encourage bad behavior by giving it validity.
They are accepted, if they are willing to change. Come as you are but don’t stay that way.
Even my liberal wife believes it is plain wrong for homosexuals to be ordained clergy.
Here’s some more savage text. We might as well air it all out. I guess we should rip out the pages which contain such things:
Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
Matt 16:24 (KJV)
Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
John 6:53 (KJV)
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. 34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36 And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household. 37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
Matt 10:33-38 (KJV)
We can come up with more if necessary. The point is, the author can remake God into whatever he wants, and that can be HIS God, but it will not be the TRUE God, the God who is there. The God who will eventually sit as his judge. Then he can tell Him why he deleted or ignored “savage text.”
The issue is, “Who gets to judge which words to accept and which ones to reject?” Is it that each person gets to make that decision? Or is it that each person can pretend he has the right to make such decisions, and can pay for his error later, when he faces the true Judge?
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Phil 2:10-11 (KJV)
Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Phil 2:12-13 (KJV)
Last time I checked, it’s God’s Universe and and He gets to make the rules. Some human egos want to run the show and would like for God to get out of the way of the enlightened few.
Well...then I guess it’s ok to have “spouse swappin’ night” to run concurrently with “pot luck” dinners...
There is only ONE YHvH.
NAU Mark 12:29 Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'HEAR, O ISRAEL! YHvH OUR GOD IS ONE YHvH; There are not two or three gods nor
The above words are those of haSatan !
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach NAU Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel! YHvH is our God, YHvH is one!
There is only ONE YHvH
a pantheon of gods including
a queen of heaven.
-"I'll decide what's right and wrong" God's input doesn't matter.
Come Lord jesus.
Wisdom of Solomon 12:1-6, For thy immortal spirit is in all things. / Therefore thou doest correct little by little those who trespass, / and dost remind and warn them of the things wherein they sin, that they may be freed from wickedness and put their trust in thee, O Lord. / Those who dwelt of old in thy holy land / thou didst hate for their detestable practices, / their works of sorcery and unholy rites, / their merciless slaughter of children, / and their sacrificial feasting on human flesh and blood. / These initiates from the midst of a heathen cult, / these parents who murder helpless lives, / thou didst will to destroy by the hands of fathers.”
"[And the LORD spake unto Moses saying, ...] And if a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." Leviticus 20:13
Looks like He means what He says. Sodomy is an abomination and deserving of capital punishment. Anyone who says otherwise is calling God a liar.
Those pushing for sodomite acceptance might try to float the line "we are under grace and no longer under the law." The law is eternal. Jesus Christ fulfilled the law. (Read Hebrews) Because we are in him, we establish the law. (Read Romans). Those who break the law will be punished. The believer's sins are forgiven, but there will be consequences in this life. The unbeliever is under condemnation and the wrath of God abides on him. (John 3:18, 3:36).
Jesus said:
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul; but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Matthew 10:26
People no longer fear God and respect him. Instead they "excuse" and make life "comfortable" for those in wicked sins, consigning them to an eternity in the lake of fire. That is not loving. If you love someone, you will tell him what he is doing is a wrong in hopes of reaching him with words of life. Sadly, many will be so reprobate that they cannot be reached.
Isaiah 5:18-21, “Woe to those who draw iniquity with cords of falsehood, / who draw sin as with cart ropes…/ Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, /who put darkness for light and light for darkness, / who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! / Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, / and shrewd in their own sight!”
When God ordered the Israelites to destroy certain peoples, I think we have to assume that He knew what He was doing. It’s not that the Israelites were more savage than later Christians, or that the Old Testament God was different from the New Testament God, but that God decides through His providential will.
Those people who were destroyed were idol worshippers, and most of them had practices like sacrificing their own children to idolatrous Gods, such as Moloch. Or practicing prostitution in the temples of various goddesses.
We’ve all heard the phrase, “Kill them all, and let God sort them out.” Presumably if there were any good people among those tribes that were eliminated, God took care of them.
The commission of homosexual acts, in contrast, is always an evil, back then and now. Not having homosexual inclinations, but putting them into practice. It would never be right in a Christian priest or clergyman. Nor can it be excused in Christian laymen, because the job of the clergy is to preach God’s word and convert sinners.
Matthew 5:17 (NIV)
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.”