BTDT?
You know, The Creator, what ever or whom ever you perceive that to be, invented sex as a inducement to procreate and preserve the species (virtually all species).
Now people can love a lot of things and that’s up to the individual. It might be your spouse, your dog or cat, or even ice cream.
Now two people can jack each other off all day long, but that doesn’t make it sex. Sex is between a man and a woman... Gay sex doesn’t exist.
“More light” in the loafers?
Moderator CYNTHIA? Rev. JANET?
I think this is where the problem starts.
This isn’t any Church that reads the Bible. They are as bad as the Scientoligists. Making it up as they go along.
The Rev. Janet Edwards said, "The Heidelberg Catechism is one of the defining documents of Reformed traditions and must be translated correctly. Any mistranslation undermines the integrity of the document and raises questions among those standing at the margins who wonder if they are included in the love of Christ."
Curious that she should mention that.
Kevin DeYoung in his recent book on the Heidelberg (The Good News We Almost Forgot. Highly recommended.) discusses this.
From memory, because I don't have it in front of me: the PCUSA guys who translated it for the them didn't translate well. The explicit reference to homosexuality isn't there. That translator recognized it as an implicit reference to one of the places in the NT where homosexuality is condemned. Zacharias Ursinus & Co. would certainly have understood it so. The their translator made explicit what the Ursinus & Co. left implicit.
The Heidelberg Catechism is (sort of) part of the confessional underpinnings of the PCUSA (but in a way that's deliberately undermining of that structure). A year or three back, the PCUSA altered their own, idiosyncratic, translation to remove an explicit reference to homosexuality. A reference that wasn't there to begin with.
In other words, there's no aid for the homo-affirming from that particular quarter.
I have attended the Presbyterian Church most of my life, but I never became a member. Last Sunday our minister gave a sermon; ‘Compromising The Gospel’. Then at the very end of the sermon he stated, The Presbyterian Church USA made some compromises, but he didn’t say what this compromising was, but I knew what he was hinting at.
The Bible is very explicit about homosexuality, both in the Old and the New Testimont, specially Paul’s writings in Acts. There is no arguments or debates, you just don’t compromise with the word of God.
The Boy Scouts of American had the guts not to compromise for the sake of Political Correctness. They are sticking to their principles of morality by not allowing homosexuals to be scout leaders. It’s an absolute shame that a Biblically principled Church like the Presbyterian’s can’t stick to Godly principals as they fall into the trap of Political Correctness.
So, now I am looking for a church that adhere’s to the principals as demanded by God and not by man.
I am open to any suggestions.