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RealCatholicTV's Voris had 'no idea' about internal problems
CNA Catholic News Agency ^ | August 17, 2011 | Benjamin Mann

Posted on 08/18/2011 3:37:03 AM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore

Denver, Colo., Aug 17, 2011 / 06:12 pm (CNA).- Michael Voris, the founder and host of RealCatholicTV, says he was completely unaware of recently discovered troubles within his organization, involving a staff apologist's sexually explicit writings, and his nonprofit corporation's loss of legal status two years ago.

“I don't know what the issue is on any of this stuff,” said Voris, who is currently in Spain promoting his unofficial “No Bull in Madrid” meetings during World Youth Day.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: activist; catholic; catholictaliban; helltoupee; michaelvoris; realcatholictv; uninvolved; voris
This is a big oops!
1 posted on 08/18/2011 3:37:11 AM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

Now Voris knows what it is like to be a bishop perhaps.


2 posted on 08/18/2011 3:42:41 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Sweden - one of the next Muslim countries)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore
Mr. Voris is a dim bulb at best. Of course, he can always get a job with the Hair Club for Men.


3 posted on 08/18/2011 8:17:41 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: Not gonna take it anymore
Denver, Colo., Aug 17, 2011 / 06:12 pm (CNA).- Michael Voris, the founder and host of RealCatholicTV, says he was completely unaware of recently discovered troubles within his organization, involving a staff apologist's sexually explicit writings, and his nonprofit corporation's loss of legal status two years ago. “I don't know what the issue is on any of this stuff,” said Voris, who is currently in Spain promoting his unofficial “No Bull in Madrid” meetings during World Youth Day.

"It has come to our attention that Michael Voris, a US based media producer, is scheduled to offer independent catechesis sessions out of a hotel in Madrid during World Youth Day 2011. There has been some confusion regarding his affiliation with World Youth Day. Michael Voris, the clergy and the laity associated with him, and their media efforts “Real Catholic TV” and “No Bull in Madrid” are not in any way recognized or approved by World Youth Day 2011."

-- from the thread U.S. Based Media Producer Not Approved By WYD 2011

Here's the complete text for the Michael Voris/RealCatholicTV video episode titled "Catholic Government", dated August 12, 2010:

Hello everyone, and welcome to "The Vortex", where lies and falsehoods are trapped and exposed. I'm Michael Voris.

There's an inherent problem with democracy. Actually, it's definitional. It's this: everyone gets to vote. That's right, EVERYONE gets to vote.

Consider for a moment: the informed get to vote, those who have studied the candidates and issues, and consider the impact not only on themselves but the society at large. But in addition to the informed, the ignorant get to vote as well, those who have studied nothing and don't care about anything except themselves and their own narrow interests.

Imagine the scene: two voters, walking into voting booths side-by-side. One casts a vote with an eye to improving society at large, by rolling back abortion, defending traditional marriage, or reducing government's ability to crush families with heavy taxation, etc. Such a voter casts his vote with an eye to the common good - the authentic common good, what's best for the culture as a whole. Right next to his is a voter who doesn't give a hoot about society at large. All he cares about is his own selfish interests: insuring abortion stays legal so he can have sex with no consequences, or have his decision to have sex with another man celebrated as a right. Such a voter exhibits little else than an adolescent preoccupation with self-absorption. Imagine, he actually gets to vote! What a country! What a system! And it is a system that will end in self-destruction.

The nature of man is to be self-absorbed. That is because our nature is fallen. It no longer looks at God. Rather, it looks into a mirror. In fact, it stares into the mirror, totally absorbed, and can think of little else. This is why, if we're going to insist on a system where we're going to elect leaders - if we're going to insist on that system - only virtuous people should be allowed to vote. Ruthless men and women who, knowing human nature very well, and thereby the means to control and manipulate it, hold great influence over the selfish masses. They connive and scheme their way to power by appealing to the most base level of human ignorance, namely, to a false sense of liberty. They class everything in terms of "rights": a "right" to marry your homosexual sex partner, a "right" to kill your child, a "right" to have others in society pay for your lack of effort, your desire for contraception, food, housing, medical services, education, clothes - anything that can be imagined. Such societal parasites will cast their votes in such a way that will only hasten the destruction of a nation. It's like a cancer destroying its host. It enjoys ravaging the body, until the body is dead.

The cancer must be eliminated, and the only way to prevent a democracy from committing suicide is to limit the vote to faithful Catholics. Only a true Catholic nation in fact will survive, can survive, because only truly Catholic people will be the ones looking at God & not staring in the mirror. When they cast their their votes, they cast them with an eye to what God desires, not fallen human nature. But as the body politic continues to be ravaged by the cancer of ignorant self-centered voters, it becomes more and more clear that a national euthanasia is occurring.

But in truth, this is really the way the whole idea of democracy is little less than an experiment doomed to failure from the outset. Eventually, the evil in the heart of man overtakes him, when he dismisses God. No, the only way to run a country is by benevolent dictatorship. A Catholic monarch, who protects his people from themselves, and bestows on them what they need, not necessarily what they want, who protects their rights as human beings. It was this political system that caused Europe to emerge from the morass of marauding barbarians and create Western Civilization. A noble Catholic monarch advances the common good while loving and caring for his people. If you think about it, this is exactly how the universe is governed, isn't it? "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven."

God bless you, I'm Michael Voris.

On August 18, 2010, Voris posted a video titled Some Clarity, in which he backpedals furiously, apologizing profusely for more than a minute. He claims that the negative reaction to his (now pulled) pro-Monarchy message was the result of his bad explanation. He fully accepts the blame for his audience missing his larger point in the prior broadcast. He then presents a heavily re-written version of the previous (now-deleted) message, attempting to placate his American audience by avoiding discussion of specific courses of action, that democracies are "doomed from the start", that "the only way to run a country" is through a monarchy. Here are some excerpts (call it "Catholic Government 2.0"), where he talks specifically about democratic republics:
No matter what form of government a country has, the lives people will live under that government will depend on the quality of virtue: the virtue of the governed, and the virtue of the governing. In the case of a democracy or a democratic republic, where power is supposed to derive from the people, a lack of virtue on their part - the people's part - will lead to a government lacking virtue. It's the old adage that a nation gets the leaders it deserves....

....In our current system a lot of people, who don't care one lick about virtue, have a say in who rules over all of us. As Catholics, what should our response be to that? Well, we can either discuss changing the system completely, which would be monumental because there is no clear path to do that, or we can talk about fixing the current system, which means making at least a majority of the population realize the value of virtue. That is also a monumental task, but there is a slightly more clear path to that. It's called evangelization, and the only way that's going to happen is if Catholics, virtuous Catholics, get out there and start making it happen. Now if that fails, well, who knows?


4 posted on 08/18/2011 9:56:16 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed: he's hated on seven continents)
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