Posted on 08/08/2011 4:45:29 PM PDT by Colofornian
Canada is almost a liberal utopia with socialized medicine, oppressive gun control, no death penalty and gay marriage. Of course I have to qualify the utopian potential of our neighbor to the north with “almost” because Canada also has a state religion.
And Canada may be leading the way for all western nations as they seriously consider de-criminalizing the practice of polygamy. It couldn’t happen to a nicer country.
It seems there’s a Mormon fella in Bountiful named Winston Blackmore, who has 19 wives and more than 100 children. Oh yes, that’s Bountiful, British Columbia, not our beloved Top of Utah Bountiful.
Unlike the circumspect polygamists who live in Bountiful, Utah, Blackmore of Bountiful, B.C., lives quite openly with his wives and some eleven baseball teams worth of kids. Incidentally, I’m not impressed by Blackmore et al’s fertility. My great-grandfather sired over four baseball teams worth of kids with only four wives.
At any rate, Canadian authorities have had a dickens of a time enforcing their anti-polygamy laws. The current case against Brother Blackmore is defended on the basis that the anti-polygamy laws violate both freedom of religion and association guaranteed in the Canadian Charter of Rights. Come to think of it, American authorities are not enforcing the anti-polygamy laws already on the books. And our local polygamists could defend their convivial lifestyle on the basis that anti-polygamy laws violate both freedom of religion and association guaranteed in the Constitution’s Bill of Rights.
And there’s no court in Canada or the USA that will rule that a Moslem can’t practice polygamy in accordance with Sharia.
Legal polygamy approacheth.
I wonder what will happen to the excuse I’ve heard hundreds of times, “We don’t practice polygamy because it’s against the law.”?
From the column: Canada is almost a liberal utopia with socialized medicine, oppressive gun control, no death penalty and gay marriage. Of course I have to qualify the utopian potential of our neighbor to the north with “almost” because Canada also has a state religion. And Canada may be leading the way for all western nations as they seriously consider de-criminalizing the practice of polygamy. It couldn’t happen to a nicer country.
From the column -- written by a descendant of polygamists: Unlike the circumspect polygamists who live in Bountiful, Utah, Blackmore of Bountiful, B.C., lives quite openly with his wives and some eleven baseball teams worth of kids. Incidentally, I’m not impressed by Blackmore et al’s fertility. My great-grandfather sired over four baseball teams worth of kids with only four wives.
From the column: Come to think of it, American authorities are not enforcing the anti-polygamy laws already on the books. And our local polygamists could defend their convivial lifestyle on the basis that anti-polygamy laws violate both freedom of religion and association guaranteed in the Constitution’s Bill of Rights.
Yup. This writer...writing in the heart of Utah...sizes up Utah's notorious "looking the other way" when it comes to polygamists.
Good point.
It reminds me of a 1960s survey of Mormons about how many would jump back into polygamy if the Mormon "prophet" told them to do it:
"Another survey taken in the 1960s found that not only do contemporary church members overwhelmingly disapprove of polygamy but only two in five said they would enter the principle if commanded by the prophets." [B. Carmon Hardy, Solemn Covenant, University of Illinois Press, p. 339, citing survey published in 1963 by John R. Christiansen, "Contemporary Mormons' Attitudes Toward Polygamous Practices," Journal of Marriage and Family 25 (May 1963): pp. 167-170)].
Now I don't know about you -- but 40% who said "they would enter the principle if commanded by the prophets" in 1963 is pretty high!
Idiot.
I don’t have a problem with polygamy so long as it is with adult women, and not 12 and 14 year old children. However, we also should have polyandry. I need several husbands. One for my romantic needs, one to repair the houses and the cars, and one to earn a really good living. ;-)
Polygamy is about to become the next Great Liberal Cause.
Then comes marriage/sex with children
Makes sense to me.
We should treat three and four and five and ... equally!
Why should our marriage certificates have only lines for "Spouse A" and "Spouse B"? What about "Spouse C" and ... "Spouse Z"?
/sarc
The next frontier will be incest where both "partners" are adults and promise to abort any children that are conceived.
There is no such thing as “consent” when it comes to children. It is so easy for a pervert parent to groom their own trusting, innocent child it should never even be considered okay.
The reason why it will be a long time, or hopefully never, before they allow children to marry is because children can not fully consent. Even if they say 'Yes', they really can't understand what they are agreeing to.
Unfortunately there will be idiots who will point to people getting married in their early teens back in the 1800's as a reason why today's kids should also be able to marry that early. But back then lifespans were much shorter, and the kids matured much faster, and it was probably still a bad idea even back then.
Things are bad in America with regards to moral standards, but I think we still have a long way to go before we have to worry about NAMBLA becoming as powerful an influence as the gay lobby.
I think our arguments lose support when we try to heap all sorts of imagined future horrors on top of very possible near term horrors. When we start talking about people marrying their pets or their computers, instead of it generating more support for traditional marriage it undermines the basic argument.
Right now I believe it would be best to focus on polygamy, which most people still oppose especially when it is of the Muslim variety. By making gay marriage legal in a few states (and soon the rest of the country when DOMA goes down undefended by the Obama admin) then the only thing stopping polygamy will be that there are only two lines on each marriage certificate. The polygamists will by logical extension wonder why there can't be three or more such lines.
They are part of the gay lobby, always have been. Even the liberal wikipedia doesn't try to hide it. They are connected at the hip.
They used to speak with "one" voice that all they wanted was to be free of criminal prosecution and the threat of physical violence. They would never ever think of asking for gay marriage. Of course at that time while the "official gays" were claiming that they had no interest in gay marriage, others were saying that they did.
Fast forward and the gay lobby now claims that they have always been asking for gay marriage. It is very duplicitous, but it is the modus operandi of the gays.
Right now NAMBLA may be tied at the hip to the gay movement, but their pronouncements are not currently anywhere near being in line with the "official gays". It will be decades before they are in line with the "official gays" in my opinion. Even the "official gays", who hide behind weaselly names like the "Human Rights Campaign" don't want to get anywhere near the NAMBLA agenda for quite some time. They have plenty on their agenda seeing that DOMA is overturned, using the "Full Faith and Credit Clause" to overturn any state traditional marriage laws, seeing that trannies get to use women's restrooms, etc.
I have said for a long time, as soon as polygamy is legal, LDS inc will have a ‘revelation’ bringing it back.
Mormons still believe in polygamy, even if they don’t practice it the same way as much.
The 1972 Gay Rights Platform
DEMANDS:
Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent.
Repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into a marriage unit; and the extension of legal benefits to all persons who cohabit regardless of sex or numbers.
http://www.article8.org/docs/general/platform.htm
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