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[Catholic Caucus] Calling Back Black Sheep Dog HOME Four friends...plead not to leave priesthood
Reasons for Faith via You Tube ^ | 21.06.2011 | Jesse Romero John Garcia Terry Barber

Posted on 06/22/2011 9:01:27 AM PDT by GonzoII

Four friends of Fr. John Corapi plead to him not to leave the priesthood.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: corapi; frcorapi
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I was hoping some friends would show up. Direct You Tube Link: Calling Back Black Sheep Dog HOME
1 posted on 06/22/2011 9:01:33 AM PDT by GonzoII
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

Ping


2 posted on 06/22/2011 9:46:11 AM PDT by frogjerk (Liberalism: The ideology of envy.)
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To: frogjerk
Corapi now brags that he did not serve as a priest during his 20 years.

"I didn't do very much of that quite honestly in the twenty years that I did minister," he says, adding, "90 percent of what I did in the past did not require ordination. Speaking through social communication—radio, TV, so forth—that's not ministry, strictly speaking. My particular mission was speaking, writing, and teaching—not so much in the sacraments, but outside of them, in conjunction with them. So what I'm going to be doing in the future is pretty much the same thing." - John Corapi

Source: http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/Corapis-10-Percent-Solution-Deacon-Greg-Kandra-06-22-2011.html
3 posted on 06/22/2011 10:20:50 AM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: GonzoII

Prayers up for Fr. Corapi.


4 posted on 06/22/2011 10:23:51 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: WaterBoard

Even preaching the gospel is one of the duties required of Catholic ordination.


5 posted on 06/22/2011 10:38:46 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: WaterBoard
Corapi now brags that he did not serve as a priest during his 20 years.

Not really.

6 posted on 06/22/2011 10:48:31 AM PDT by frogjerk (Liberalism: The ideology of envy.)
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To: frogjerk

Really?

What parish did Corapi serve in? Answer? None.

He served himself.


7 posted on 06/22/2011 2:39:37 PM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: frogjerk

“Father Corapi has a personal residence in Kalispell, Mont. He does not hold priestly faculties in the Diocese of Helena, said Diocese of Helena Chancellor Father John Robertson.”

Exactly where is Corapi serving as a priest and providing Sacraments? Besides, charging thousands of dollars plus expenses to give talks?


8 posted on 06/22/2011 2:42:27 PM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: WaterBoard

Go back to media matters.


9 posted on 06/22/2011 4:39:47 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: bronxville

Hey, you are perfectly allowed to defend a heretic. I will defend the church.


10 posted on 06/22/2011 5:01:45 PM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: WaterBoard

No you’re not, you’re doing a Saul Alinsky, and not for the first time.


11 posted on 06/22/2011 7:24:18 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: GonzoII

I just watched the video...thanks Gonzo. Fr Corapi has thousands of friends he’s helped especially in AA/NA. He’s very fragile right now and needs some of these people at his side.


12 posted on 06/23/2011 5:46:02 AM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: bronxville

Where is the ignore button. I don’t want you to contact me with your anti-Catholic diatribe anymore.


13 posted on 06/23/2011 9:17:21 AM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: WaterBoard

“Corapi now brags that he did not serve as a priest during his 20 years.

Source: http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/Corapis-10-Percent-Solution-Deacon-Greg-Kandra-06-22-2011.html";

Sad that now even deacons are feeling empowered to join the internet lynch mob - kicking this man while he’s down, analyzing his behavior and decisions without access to all the relevant facts, and basically behaving like gleeful vultures.

What a turn-off.

He needs prayers, not spite.


14 posted on 06/23/2011 11:22:05 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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Everything that happened to John Corapi is self-inflicted. Nothing wrong about offering prayers for him so that he may see the light and seek forgiveness from his religious order, his Bishop, and his ‘fan base’.

His attacks on the church did a lot of damage.


15 posted on 06/23/2011 12:12:10 PM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: WaterBoard

“His attacks on the church did a lot of damage.”

What attacks? What damage?

He went around promoting the catechism and the rosary.

He drew lots of people into the Church over the past 20 years. Can you name a single person he drove out?

Plenty of damage to the Church in recent years due to bad decisions and unorthodox teachings, but Fr. Corapi is not the one responsible.


16 posted on 06/23/2011 1:06:14 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut
Corpi has attacked his Bishop William M. Mulvey of Corpus Christi, The Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity, and the Church via his web postings post sex-drug abuse allegation time frame.

1) "The SOLT is further saddened by Father Corapi's response to these allegations."

2) "We request your prayers and the intercession of the Blessed Mother for the healing of Father Corapi and for any who have been negatively affected by Father Corapi's decision to end his ministry as a priest and a member of the SOLT."

Check out his website. In his world view, there is a conspiracy to get him. Which, given his time in a mental facility (which he admits) is not surprising.

This quote is most illuminating:

Corapi said, "For 20 years I did my best to guard and feed the sheep. Now, based on a totally unsubstantiated, undocumented allegation from a demonstrably troubled person I was thrown out like yesterday's garbage. I accept that. Perhaps I deserve that."

“Put no trust in princes, in mere mortals powerless to save” (Ps 146:3).
17 posted on 06/23/2011 5:53:25 PM PDT by WaterBoard
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“Corpi has attacked his Bishop William M. Mulvey of Corpus Christi, The Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity, and the Church via his web postings post sex-drug abuse allegation time frame.”

Fr. Corapi’s communication of details regarding his situation does not constitute an “attack” on the Church. Nor is a possible difference of opinion with Bishop Mulvey an “attack”. There is no “damage to the Church” from people communicating facts about policies and procedures. Fr. Corapi is correct that the current “process” for investigating accusations is completely skewed in favor of the accuser, and he, like any other person, priest or laity, has the moral right to defend himself in the most effective way possible. Hopefully, Bishop Mulvey also agrees that this is the case. I would question the judgment of any bishop who would favor a one-sided “process” dealing with any kind of accusations.

You posted: 1) “The SOLT is further saddened by Father Corapi’s response to these allegations.”

Yes, and the SOLT also says this in the same statement: “We reiterate that Fr. Corapi had not been determined guilty of any canonical or civil crimes”

And Fr. Corapi says this: “Fr. James Flanagan, Founder and most respected member of the Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity, and Bishop Rene Gracida, the former Bishop of Corpus Christi, had a meeting on this matter. The result was that they advised me strongly to file a civil defamation suit. Why would they do this? Because they felt it was the only way I could receive a fair and just hearing. This advice was conveyed to me through Fr. Tony Anderson of the Society of Our Lady.”

You also posted: 2) “We request your prayers and the intercession of the Blessed Mother for the healing of Father Corapi and for any who have been negatively affected by Father Corapi’s decision to end his ministry as a priest and a member of the SOLT.”

Apparently prayers were requested because of this: “...the SOLT received a letter from Fr. Corapi, dated June 3, 2011, indicating that, because of the physical, emotional and spiritual distress he has endured over the past few years, he could no longer continue to function as a priest or a member of the SOLT”

“Check out his website. In his world view, there is a conspiracy to get him. Which, given his time in a mental facility (which he admits) is not surprising.”

Nope, he presents the information very charitably and reasonably.

“Put no trust in princes, in mere mortals powerless to save” (Ps 146:3).

Why assume that appreciation for Fr. Corapi’s gift of preaching somehow indicates that people think he’s their savior? That’s quite a leap.


18 posted on 06/23/2011 8:05:11 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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Well, I guess it does not matter anymore because he abandoned his vows.

"Yes, and the SOLT also says this in the same statement: “We reiterate that Fr. Corapi had not been determined guilty of any canonical or civil crimes”"

That is a nice spin on the situation when you ignore this part. The church could not conduct an investigation because Corapi forced the witnesses to sign non-disclosure agreements and paid the accuser cash. All innocent people do this especially priests, right?

“When she left the company, she signed a contract that she would not reveal anything that happened to her while she was at Santa Cruz Media. Father Corapi paid her for this. Father was suing her for a breach of contract,” said Father Sheehan, though he did not specify why Father Corapi had initiated the non-disclosure agreement.

The civil suit against the former employee created a problem for SOLT investigators.

“In canon law, there can’t be any pressure on witnesses; they have to be completely free to speak. The investigation was compromised because of the pressure on the witnesses. There were other witnesses that also had signed non-disclosure agreements,” said Father Sheehan.

"The investigation was halted after Father Corapi “sent us a letter resigning from active ministry and religious life."

Source: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/father-corapis-bombshell#ixzz1PnZOg1Kr
19 posted on 06/24/2011 5:09:45 AM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: WaterBoard

An interesting take on the BlackSheepDog:

According to Corapi, John’s transformation from Trinitarian priest to “hound of heaven” beast happened something like this. A “raging” “hateful” “alcoholic,” “the one person I did more to help...than any person in my life,” was “looking for a payday” and thus made some “libelous” “unsubstantiated” sexual misconduct charges against me and I was suspended. Although “I love the Catholic Church,” and agree that the bishop is in charge and “will defend to the death...his right” to suspend me, the Church’s laws regarding suspension are “illogical and impossible” and the bishop has no “qualifications” to “fairly investigate” my case. Asking only for my “civil and human rights,” I was given the choice “to lie down and die” as a priest or be “thrown out as yesterday’s garbage” as a layman, and on the advice of God and my many lawyers I chose the latter.

Nice try, John, but at least for orthodox Catholics, the ones you used to so successfully cater to, that explanation just doesn’t wash. You have taught us too well that the true martyr, as opposed to the martyr in your own mind, doesn’t “lie down and die,” but stands up and fights. Whether you were unjustly accused and tried by a drunken ex-employee and a vengeful bishop is irrelevant. As you taught, unjustly accused priests like Pio or unfairly imprisoned padres such as John of the Cross didn’t become saints by casting off their crosses, but by embracing them. And by now proclaiming it is you, rather than the Church (that you still claim to “love”) who is the new guardian of the “Truth,” you sound suspiciously like the Serpent who spun a similar yarn in a garden long ago.

Source: Corapi corrupted: the parable of the lost “sheepdog”
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/otoole/110623


20 posted on 06/24/2011 5:16:49 AM PDT by WaterBoard
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