Posted on 03/18/2011 5:31:09 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
“why are people always trying to rewrite religion?
I’ve wondered that myself.....signed, the Pope”
The popes were the first to rewrite Christianity. Indulgences, worshipping Jesus’s mother as a goddess-figure and saying Jesus doesn’t have any brothers through Mary, etc.
I wouldn't call Exeter or Oxford a "seminar". While they may have divinity schools, I would wager a portion of those divinity students are agnostic or even atheists.
Charlie Rose was interviewing two professors of Theological Studies from Harvard divinity school a few years ago. Only minutes into the interview, it was clear that at one of them wasn't a believer, and I'm pretty confident she was a lesbian. The subjects discussed: The Gospels of Thomas & Judas. That's the kind of theological "study" that goes on at these places.
Why would God need a wife? Companionship? Procreation? God IS the Creator. And He has all of humanity, His creation, for companionship. What sense does this make?
You done it now. Once they get their ping ring going, you'll be inundated with posts. Like kicking a hornets nest.
Yeah. He kicked my hornets nest with his post too :)
I struggle long & hard about how much response is warranted, being a Christian. One of my rules of thumb is that if they might think their comment slipped by you, it’s better to let them know you get it.
Now pay real close attention.....the Catholics didn't rewrite Christianity...they wrote it period. The church that Christ founded soon became known as Catholic church and she was the one which interpreted, catalogued, copied, protected, the teachings and traditions of the early curch. The Catholics didn't invent the idea that Jesus had no biologigal brothers and sisters, there is just no evidence that He did. (would have been a bad choice for God in that there would now be direct decendants of Christ.....can you imagine how obnoxious they would be??) Catholics also do not worship Mary....they honor her for who she was, Jesus' mother, and pray through her to Jesus. Kind of nice to ask His mom to put in a good word for you....what can it hurt. Kind of like asking Barbara Bush to put in a good word to George W. concerning your favorite charity....who knows, it might do a lot of good.....if you don't know anything about Catholicism, and you don't, please keep your inane comments about her to yourself.
“Now pay real close attention.....the Catholics didn’t rewrite Christianity...they wrote it period.”
How strange. I thought it was Jesus who did that.
they, your nieces and nephews, are all your "blood" relatives and DNA testing would show them to be so. If I were a blood relative of Jesus', I might remind my friends and any others who would listen, about the quality of my family compared to theirs. There are relatives of Lincoln, Jefferson, etc. and they are right to be proud of that....but a blood relative of GOD.....give me a break, and Jesus was indeed God.
"There was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and on a careful reading of that transaction, it will be discovered that non less a person that Jesus Christ was married on that occasion. If he was never married, his intimacy with Mary and Martha an the other Mary also whom Jesus loved, must have been highly unbecoming and improper to say the best of it." (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Mormonism vol. 4, p. 259).
"In the Church councils, it was spoken of: "Joseph F. Smith_ He spoke upon the marriage in Cana of Galilee. He thought Jesus was the bridegroom and Mary and Martha the brides."(Journal of Wilford Woodruff, July 22, 1883).
"The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age. A belief in doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers. We might almost think they were Mormons (Jedediah Grant, Journal of Discourses, Momronism vol. 1, p. 346).
"One thing is certain, that there were several holy women that great loved Jesus, such as Mary and Martha her sister, and Mary Magdalene; and Jesus greatly loved them and associated with the much ... If all the acts of Jesus were written, we no doubt should learn that these beloved women were his wives." (Orson Pratt, The Seer, Mormonism p. 159).
I don't recall reading anything that Jesus wrote....I do, however, recall that He said to His followers such things as I will give unto you the keys to the kingdom of heaven......who's sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven, feed my sheep, Peter, upon this rock I will build my church....Kind of indicates that He had His Catholic church in mind...and He never once directed a comment to Martin Luther
The pagan gods had no moral sense if you will, if you provided them with a big enough gift they would give you what you wanted. The God of Israel tended not to make such bargains.
You hear it still in some of the new age religions. "Take what you want and pay for it". Which is fine for human interactions, but what can we humans truly give to God that balances our debt to him?
no He wasn't....He was a guest as was His mother. He, at that wedding feast, changed water into the finest wine to serve to the guests...that wasn't grape juice, it was wine. The only spiritual marriage that Jesus is involved in is the one between Catholic nuns and Himself....all other marital connections are in your imagination.
Not my imagination, the imagination of the cult known as LDS, inc.
Make no mistake about it, I see the hand of God in every one of His creations....however, the conversation was concerning the author of the written bible....I merely stated that while Jesus didn't directly write it, He certainly guided and influenced the content of those who did.....I played golf today on one of God's courses....He could have made it a little easier and shorter.!!!!!
I hope you understand now that the Catholics wrote the Bible. I’m glad we got that one covered. I feel so much better now. From Moses to John, they were all Catholics. That hornets nest keeps looming larger. It’s all a waste of time to argue. Been there.
did the old testament figures call their teachings a bible?? I don't think they did. Did Moses and the other prophets write or at least orally teach their beliefs, of course they did. Did the Catholic church transcribe those and all the new testament books into one called the bible????of course they did.If it weren't for the early christians, there would be no such thing as the bible. Remmember, they represent the new and everlasting covenant that Jesus promised. The early christians soon became known as Catholic and the writings that they compiled of both old and new testament books became known as the bible. Lay down your king james version and read the one that the protestant "reformers" didn't toss books from because they didn't meet "their" standards. The Catholics wrote the real bible, protestants wrote the readers digest version....cut down somewhat.
If the King of Heaven had a wife, would she be known as “The Queen of Heaven”?
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