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The Presbyterian Response to Homosexual Clergy
New American ^ | 04 March 2011 | Dave Bohon

Posted on 03/05/2011 2:15:27 PM PST by americanophile

The Presbyterian Church-USA, one of the nation’s oldest and largest mainline Christian denominations, is in the middle of a crucial vote among its leadership to determine whether or not open homosexuals will be allowed to fill the church’s pulpits. At the denomination’s General Assembly in July 2010, delegates approved by a 373 to 323 vote a measure that would allow open homosexuals to pastor and minister in the flagship Presbyterian denomination’s 11,000 congregations and serve its estimated 2.3 million members.

A vote on the amendment is now making its way through the church’s 173 regional presbyteries, a process that must be completed by this summer. If half of the presbyteries approve the measure, references to sexuality will be stricken from the denomination’s bylaws and homosexuals will be allowed ordination. The General Assembly has approved homosexual ordination three times in the past, only to have the change rejected by the regional presbyteries.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: clergy; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; pcusa; presbyterian
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1 posted on 03/05/2011 2:15:30 PM PST by americanophile
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“Shortly after the marriage, Barron wrote several commentaries weighing in on the ongoing debate over homosexuality within the PC-USA,” reported the Christian Post. “He suggested that Presbyterians not begin with the Bible when addressing the issue.” In one of his articles, Barron wrote that “if we begin with the Bible, we will likely reach a polarized stalemate. Bible discussions are too often divisive. When we begin with the Bible, we are not beginning with a natural place for all of us.”

Uhhh...ummmm....speechless

2 posted on 03/05/2011 2:18:54 PM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives"-Ataturk)
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It’s been a century of decline for the PCUSA. The salt lost its savor.


3 posted on 03/05/2011 2:21:55 PM PST by lurk
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I would draw a parallel between gay “marriage” and an ordained minister who openly and proudly continues in adultery, but the liberals would probably interpret that as another of God’s “mistakes” to be corrected as they rewrite the Bible for Him.


4 posted on 03/05/2011 2:24:49 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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"Is this why I worked so hard to reform the Church of Scotland?"

5 posted on 03/05/2011 2:26:02 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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We are so very close to the end. Like another poster mentioned, I just don’t know why it is taking so long.


6 posted on 03/05/2011 2:26:33 PM PST by panzerkamphwageneinz (HALLELUJAH)
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Pretty much says it all, doesn't he? This guy Barron should try Christianity some day. He might like it.
7 posted on 03/05/2011 2:32:24 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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The Presbyterian Church-USA... is in the middle of a crucial vote among its leadership to determine whether or not open homosexuals will be allowed to fill the church’s pulpits.

That this question is even on the table for discussion shows that they are long past the rotting corpse stage.

8 posted on 03/05/2011 2:33:32 PM PST by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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That this question is even on the table for discussion shows that they are long past the rotting corpse stage.

That's the thing. Every generation thinks it is the first generation to discover sex. We act like this question never came up in the past 2000 years, anytime, anywhere. Obviously, it must have given the breadth of human experience over hundreds of lifetimes. If our ancestors consistently said NO, what makes us think we are so much wiser?

9 posted on 03/05/2011 2:45:34 PM PST by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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“Uhhh...ummmm....speechless”

Yes. The Bible is so out of date. It may have been ok from the beginning of time up until the year 2010.
But things are different now. We are now much smarter.

10 posted on 03/05/2011 2:50:01 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Yes We Can, have smaller government)
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For all Presbyterian USA Freepers, it’s time NOW to leave the apostate USA church! Go PCA, Orthodox, or any other denomination that still believe in the inerrancy of the Scriptures.


11 posted on 03/05/2011 2:50:41 PM PST by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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Baptists are still open for business!


12 posted on 03/05/2011 2:53:55 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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Sadly, I’m an evangelical of a Southern Baptist/Bible Church background and I can’t even recommend this fold wholeheartedly to someone leaving the PC-USA. It seems that apostasy is everywhere these days. I know there are exceptions, but they are truly exceptions.


13 posted on 03/05/2011 2:57:04 PM PST by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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Every generation thinks it is the first generation to discover sex. We act like this question never came up in the past 2000 years, anytime, anywhere.

Wow, an excellent observation. And it points to the arrogant attitude of this current, evil crop of "progressives" who believe they are blessed with superior moral insight that thousands of other over 2000 years weren't capable of.

14 posted on 03/05/2011 3:03:02 PM PST by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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When a “church” embraces behavior the Bible tells us is sinful, it is no longer a church. It’s a cult.


15 posted on 03/05/2011 3:32:56 PM PST by RavenATB ("Destroy the family and you destroy the country!" ~Vladimir Lenin)
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The Presbyterian Church USA is practically a branch of the democrat party, with its support for abortion. I grew up in that denomination, but I finally realized it had been taken over by democrats at the highest levels. I moved on to the Wesleyan denomination, which is totally conservative and follows the Bible.
16 posted on 03/05/2011 3:42:44 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta (p)
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2Th 2:1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first...

Don't be surprised. We have been warned that this would happen.

17 posted on 03/05/2011 3:52:02 PM PST by BigFinn (the King is coming and He isn't riding a donkey this time.)
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“Come out from among them”- St. Paul


18 posted on 03/05/2011 4:01:25 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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Matthew 7:22-23 (New International Version, ©2011)

22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’


19 posted on 03/05/2011 4:34:45 PM PST by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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I am reading Salt of the Earth, Ratzinger’s book written when he was not yet Pope. He sees his task as —’Taking care of Christ’s church here on earth for Him.’ Imagine! I thot it was a lovely way of phrasing it.

Not — “The church is old-fashioned. Let’s take a vote on tenets of the faith and see if we agree that they should be up-dated.” Not — ‘Women’s feelings are hurt; let’s change the rules.’

No, just ‘Our task is to take care of Christ’s church for Him.’

So refreshing to read.


20 posted on 03/05/2011 5:37:04 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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