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To: Natural Law
Let's be blunt, shall we? Catholics no longer believe in the inspirational word of God. They view the scriptures as nothing more than any other writing. Your post says as much. Sola scriptura was the view of the early fathers who clearly delineated between “infallible” writings and fallible writings. They purposely set aside the holy scripture which we now call the Bible.

It is a joke and a charade to pretend that Catholics believe in the scriptures as the word of God and then true around and argue against sola scriptura. You certainly can't make the case that you believe in the infallibility of the word of God. The early father obviously believed in it otherwise they would never have declared infallible writings.

The real reason Catholics must bash the holy word of God time and again is because declaring the word of God infallible makes every other writing fallible. That means every doctrine or decree that comes from the Church can be subject to error. This puts the Catholics in a difficult position. It is also one of the reasons the Church 1900 years later has declared the Pope as infallible. Catholics essentially have put the Pope up to the same level as the word of God and have discarded the holy scriptures.

Tsk, tsk. This is something the early fathers never considered. They, you see, were the earliest supporters of sola scriptura.

20 posted on 02/23/2011 4:49:25 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD

Yes, let’s be blunt.

YOU ARE A LIAR.


29 posted on 02/23/2011 5:41:02 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: HarleyD

Ignorant baloney.


32 posted on 02/23/2011 6:20:43 PM PST by Rich21IE
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To: HarleyD

Let me be blunt in return. You are mistaken. I will offer this most impersonal of rebuttels. I am sure you will not accept it but that only shows you are not eager to learn the truth but only to persist in error.

Oh the Early Fathers in no way believed in Sola Scriptura.

Now for the Church’s teaching on Holy Scripture.
Those divinely revealed realities which are contained and presented in Sacred Scripture have been committed to writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. For holy mother Church, relying on the belief of the Apostles (see John 20:31; 2 Tim. 3:16; 2 Peter 1:19-20, 3:15-16), holds that the books of both the Old and New Testaments in their entirety, with all their parts, are sacred and canonical because written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, they have God as their author and have been handed on as such to the Church herself.(1) In composing the sacred books, God chose men and while employed by Him (2) they made use of their powers and abilities, so that with Him acting in them and through them, (3) they, as true authors, consigned to writing everything and only those things which He wanted. (4)”

“Church ...receives and venerates with an equal affection of piety, and reverence, all the books both of the Old and of the New Testament—seeing that one God is the author of both..”

Among the reasons for which the Holy Scripture is so worthy of commendation - in addition to its own excellence and to the homage which we owe to God’s Word - the chief of all is, the innumerable benefits of which it is the source; according to the infallible testimony of the Holy Ghost Himself, who says: “All Scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice, that the man of God may be perfect, furnished to every good work.”(6) That such was the purpose of God in giving the Scripture of men is shown by the example of Christ our Lord and of His Apostles. For He Himself Who “obtained authority by miracles, merited belief by authority, and by belief drew to Himself the multitude”(7) was accustomed in the exercise of His Divine Mission, to appeal to the Scriptures. He uses them at times to prove that He is sent by God, and is God Himself. From them He cites instructions for His disciples and confirmation of His doctrine.

“But first it must be clearly understood whom we have to oppose and contend against, and what are their tactics and their arms. Now, we have to meet the Rationalists, true children and inheritors of the older heretics, who, trusting in their turn to their own way of thinking, have rejected even the scraps and remnants of Christian belief which had been handed down to them. They deny that there is any such thing as revelation or inspiration, or Holy Scripture at all; they see, instead, only the forgeries and the falsehoods of men; they set down the Scripture narratives as stupid fables and lying stories: the prophecies and the oracles of God are to them either predictions made up after the event or forecasts formed by the light of nature; the miracles and the wonders of God’s power are not what they are said to be, but the startling effects of natural law, or else mere tricks and myths; and the Apostolic Gospels and writings are not the work of the Apostles at all. These detestable errors, whereby they think they destroy the truth of the divine Books, are obtruded on the world as the peremptory pronouncements of a certain newly-invented “free science;” a science, however, which is so far from final that they are perpetually modifying and supplementing it. And there are some of them who, notwithstanding their impious opinions and utterances about God, and Christ, the Gospels and the rest of Holy Scripture, would faro be considered both theologians and Christians and men of the Gospel, and who attempt to disguise by such honourable names their rashness and their pride.”

“For all the books which the Church receives as sacred and canonical, are written wholly and entirely, with all their parts, at the dictation of the Holy Ghost; and so far is it from being possible that any error can co-exist with inspiration, that inspiration not only is essentially incompatible with error, but excludes and rejects it as absolutely and necessarily as it is impossible that God Himself, the supreme Truth, can utter that which is not true”


37 posted on 02/23/2011 7:00:51 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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