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Westminster Confession - Chapter 3 - Of God's Eternal Decree
Center for Reformed Theology and Apolgetics ^ | 1648 | Protestant Dudes

Posted on 11/26/2010 6:39:06 AM PST by HarleyD

Chapter III

Of God's Eternal Decree

I. God from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of His own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass;[1] yet so, as thereby neither is God the author of sin,[2] nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures; nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established.[3]

II. Although God knows whatsoever may or can come to pass upon all supposed conditions;[4] yet has He not decreed anything because He foresaw it as future, or as that which would come to pass upon such conditions.[5]

III. By the decree of God, for the manifestation of His glory, some men and angels[6] are predestinated unto everlasting life; and others foreordained to everlasting death.[7]

IV. These angels and men, thus predestinated, and foreordained, are particularly and unchangeably designed, and their number so certain and definite, that it cannot be either increased or diminished.[8]

V. Those of mankind that are predestinated unto life, God, before the foundation of the world was laid, according to His eternal and immutable purpose, and the secret counsel and good pleasure of His will, has chosen, in Christ, unto everlasting glory,[9] out of His mere free grace and love, without any foresight of faith, or good works, or perseverance in either of them, or any other thing in the creature, as conditions, or causes moving Him thereunto;[10] and all to the praise of His glorious grace.[11]

VI. As God has appointed the elect unto glory, so has He, by the eternal and most free purpose of His will, foreordained all the means thereunto.[12] Wherefore, they who are elected, being fallen in Adam, are redeemed by Christ,[13] are effectually called unto faith in Christ by His Spirit working in due season, are justified, adopted, sanctified,[14] and kept by His power, through faith, unto salvation.[15] Neither are any other redeemed by Christ, effectually called, justified, adopted, sanctified, and saved, but the elect only.[16]

VII. The rest of mankind God was pleased, according to the unsearchable counsel of His own will, whereby He extends or withholds mercy, as He pleases, for the glory of His sovereign power over His creatures, to pass by; and to ordain them to dishonor and wrath for their sin, to the praise of His glorious justice.[17]

VIII. The doctrine of this high mystery of predestination is to be handled with special prudence and care,[18] that men, attending the will of God revealed in His Word, and yielding obedience thereunto, may, from the certainty of their effectual vocation, be assured of their eternal election.[19] So shall this doctrine afford matter of praise, reverence, and admiration of God;[20] and of humility, diligence, and abundant consolation to all that sincerely obey the Gospel.[21]

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Footnotes:

[1] EPH 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will. ROM 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! HEB 6:17 Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath. ROM 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

[2] JAM 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man. 17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. 1JO 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

[3] ACT 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain. MAT 17:12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. ACT 4:27 For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together, 28 For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done. JOH 19:11 Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin. PRO 16:33 The lot is cast into the lap; but the whole disposing thereof is of the Lord.

[4] ACT 15:18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world. 1SA 23:11 Will the men of Keilah deliver me up into his hand? will Saul come down, as thy servant hath heard? O Lord God of Israel, I beseech thee, tell thy servant. And the Lord said, He will come down. 12 Then said David, Will the men of Keilah deliver me and my men into the hand of Saul? And the Lord said, They will deliver thee up. MAT 11:21 Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. 23 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.

[5] ROM 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. 16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

[6] 1TI 5:21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality. MAT 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.

[7] ROM 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: 23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory. EPH 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, 6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. PRO 16:4 The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

[8] 2TI 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. JOH 13:18 I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me.

[9] EPH 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: 11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own wilL. ROM 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. 2TI 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began. 1TH 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus ChrisT.

[10] ROM 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. 16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. EPH 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love. 9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself.

[11]EPH. 1:6,12.

[12] 1PE 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. EPH 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will. 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. 2TH 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth.

[13] 1TH 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. TIT 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

[14] ROM 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. EPH 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will. 2TH 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth.

[15] 1PE 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

[16] JOH 17:9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. ROM 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. JOH 6:64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him. 65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. 8:47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. 1JO 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

[17] MAT 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. 26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. ROM 9:17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. 18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. 21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? 22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction. 2TI 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. JUD 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. 1PE 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

[18] ROM 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! DEU 29:29 The secret things belong unto the Lord our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

[19] 2PE 1:10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall.

[20] EPH 1:6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. ROM 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

[21] ROM 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. 20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. 2PE 1:10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall. ROM 8:33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. LUK 10:20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.


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1 posted on 11/26/2010 6:39:08 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD

There you go again, using Scripture to back predestinarian doctrine as opposed to universalist hunches.


2 posted on 11/26/2010 7:11:12 AM PST by Gamecock (New TSA Slogans: 1. If We DonÂ’t Get Off, You DonÂ’t Get On 2. We Love Your Fly and It Shows)
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To: Gamecock

Neo-Augustinian neo-Manichaeism.


3 posted on 11/26/2010 7:15:40 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Gamecock

With a touch of the Muslim idea of God’s will being dominant to his other qualities.


4 posted on 11/26/2010 7:18:27 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Gamecock
That's an interesting straw man.

Have fun knocking it down as there will be no one here to argue it.

5 posted on 11/26/2010 7:22:51 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: aruanan

Balderdash.


6 posted on 11/26/2010 8:15:09 AM PST by Gamecock (New TSA Slogans: 1. If We DonÂ’t Get Off, You DonÂ’t Get On 2. We Love Your Fly and It Shows)
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To: Gamecock

Does this have to do.with the King.s divorce?


7 posted on 11/26/2010 9:06:35 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: HarleyD
God from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of His own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass;[1] yet so, as thereby neither is God the author of sin,[2] nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures; nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established.[3]

It is an interesting question. God did create Satan knowing all the evil Satan would do.

8 posted on 11/26/2010 9:39:51 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Gamecock

No, there Calvin goes misapplying scripture and ignoring what doesn’t fit his preconceived views.

For example, as evidence that most men are “foreordained to everlasting death.[7]”, it offers:

[7] ROM 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: 23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory.

EPH 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, 6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

PRO 16:4 The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

Yet Romans 9-11 is manifestly NOT about individual salvation, for individual Jews were and are being saved, but about corporate election (http://evangelicalarminians.org/taxonomy/term/21).

Ephesians 1, likewise, says nothing about how we become elect, merely that we are - which is consistent with Arminian teaching. We are elect IN CHRIST: “He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will”, and predestined to be like Jesus - but is this because he picked our names, and then gave us life, and then gave us faith, or is it because he chose to give life to all who believe the promise of God?

Jesus commanded, “...the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.” - Mark 1 It required the efforts of Calvin to turn this into a meaningless statement, for according to Calvin, they either cannot repent, or must, and have no say either way.


9 posted on 11/26/2010 9:54:51 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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When Paul wrote Ephesians 1:5 regarding predestination, Paul was only writing to individual Christian Grace believers; saints In Christ; not to the corporate body of believers: and not to Catholics, but real Christian Grace Saint Believers.
10 posted on 11/26/2010 2:34:05 PM PST by bibletruth
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To: wmfights; All

God most certainly did not create Satan’s evil ways as an evil thing to plague the human race, as you incorrectly suppose. Satan was originally created with all beauty, but Satan was puffed up with pride and sinned. The same sort of pride that the Roman church posseses in their claim to only have all the truth of Christ. Wrong presupposition! In Christ Grace Believers and Calvinist believers have the correct Biblical teaching directly by the Holy Ghost/Spirit. Not by presuppositions of the traditions of men, which Christ Jesus warned against, and Rome continues to ignore.


11 posted on 11/26/2010 2:45:17 PM PST by bibletruth
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To: bibletruth

Election is corporate in the New Testament as it is in the Old. We are elect IN CHRIST. Apart from being IN CHRIST, we have nothing.

How do we come to be in Christ? The Calvinist argues God makes the decision independent of us to place some in Christ, and prevent others, and no one but God has any role to play.

But Jesus said:

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. 19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. 20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. 21But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.” - John 3

Whosoever means who so ever, not those I picked before apart from any response by them. Whosoever is the opposite of election. There are no limits on the call of God to salvation. No irresistible inner call and unobeyable outer call, just the call to all to believe. “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”

We are chosen by God because God has chosen to save those who believe his Word, not because he chose a list of names to save, and another list of names to damn.

“these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name” - John 20 By believing you may have life. NOT ‘He gives life so that you may believe’...


12 posted on 11/26/2010 4:44:21 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: bibletruth
Satan was originally created with all beauty, but Satan was puffed up with pride and sinned.

Our God is all powerful and all seeing. IOW, God knew what Satan would do from before creation and created him anyway.

13 posted on 11/26/2010 5:26:54 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights
And God created man knowing that he would fall from His grace. Angels and men both fell but each in their different ways. The fall of the angels and the fall of man seems to be entwined somehow but there is little scripture given on the matter.
14 posted on 11/26/2010 5:38:38 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: Mr Rogers; All
Revelation 3:5 proof: ...and I [God] will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father..

Proof of individual believers - foolish error to deny God deals not with individual Grace Believers. GOD perfect Word proves you wrong. Read the Bible more carefully...which is impossible for Catholics to understand since they only follow their small god who, by Catholic standards, was unable to provide full and complete propitiation for all past sins and all future sins. Amazingly when God the Son, Christ Jesus, died on the cross: all sins of were future at the time of Christ cross...rejected by Catholics whom think incorrectly that a saved individual can lose their salvation after believing in the perfectly finished work of THE CROSS OF CHRIST.

15 posted on 11/26/2010 9:44:39 PM PST by bibletruth
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To: bibletruth

1 - I’m Baptist, not Catholic. However, you should remember one is saved by encountering God, repenting and asking His forgiveness. Before you assign too many to hell, please remember that God doesn’t require any of us to pass a theology test to be saved.

2 - Of course God deals with individuals, but that is not the same as saying God has ELECTED individuals to salvation, and other individuals to damnation based on his whim. God commands all to repent and believe the Gospel, and those who do will be saved by the promise of God. Whosoever is the promise of God, and means whosoever.

Your posts drip with contempt for others. If you despise someone, you ignore their arguments and set up straw men that you then attack with relish, never realizing you are fighting an imaginary foe.


16 posted on 11/27/2010 7:00:43 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: Mr Rogers
Do not make this thread "about" individual Freepers. That is also a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

17 posted on 11/27/2010 7:30:10 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: HarleyD
The fall of the angels and the fall of man seems to be entwined somehow but there is little scripture given on the matter.

Interesting point. I haven't thought about the connection.

And God created man knowing that he would fall from His grace.

Therefore, is it accurate to say God is not the author of sin. God is the creator of everything.

18 posted on 11/27/2010 8:39:34 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Mr Rogers; bibletruth; HarleyD
Before you assign too many to hell, please remember that God doesn’t require any of us to pass a theology test to be saved.

Praise the Lord, if I had to pass a theology exam I would be lost for sure. :)

It seems to me that the argument about predestination and who the author of sin is are linked. In both cases God knows from before creation who will do what. If not then God is waiting and reacting to His creation not knowing what will happen.

Why is it so wrong for God to be the author of sin?

19 posted on 11/27/2010 8:51:36 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights; bibletruth; HarleyD

“Why is it so wrong for God to be the author of sin?”

That is usually interpreted, I believe, as meaning God is the CAUSE of sin. In a deterministic theology, God makes people commit sin, then judges them for doing what he forced them to do. That is like beating a dog who had diarrhea while shut up in an apartment. The final straw that forced me to leave the Baptist Church I had been a member of for 5 years was when I was told that God decided what sins he wanted me to commit and then made me do them. FWIW, I believe most Calvinists reject that idea, although I don’t know enough Calvinists to say for certain.

OTOH, if God gives us the right to make real choices, then we sin because it is our evil nature at work. We are slaves to sin, freely rolling in our vomit, so to speak. We sin because we like it, and because we cannot free ourselves. But Jesus came to set the captives free, and that is the Good News.

From a more Arminian position, God created a world where he knew there would be sin, because it also gave us the freedom to become his sons and he considered the end worth the process. He wasn’t surprised by the Fall, but had already planned for Jesus to rescue any who believed the promise of God.


20 posted on 11/27/2010 9:23:32 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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