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1 posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:14 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief

Any dictatorship is a bad thing. Religious ones just have a more extreme following as the followers are dong “God’s will.”


2 posted on 08/27/2010 11:48:23 AM PDT by killermedic (Git some, baby)
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To: Hank Kerchief; killermedic
Really?

Revolution And Counterrevolution was written by Plinio Correa de Oliveira - a Brazilian professor who had no authority in the Catholic Church and whose teachings are widely regarded as heretical.

He does not speak for the Church - anyone who knows what the Catholic Church is, knows that the Pope and the bishops (as a group) speak for the Church.

Not even individual bishops have authority to speak for the Church, let alone random laymen like Oliveira.

3 posted on 08/27/2010 11:53:38 AM PDT by wideawake
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Does Reginald Firehammer actually know anything about “The Holy Roman Empire” or does he use it because its a wonderful coincidence that 3 left-wing buzz-word cliches can be strung together into a phrase that actually exists in the English Language?


4 posted on 08/27/2010 11:54:54 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Hank Kerchief
Look, anyone can propose anything. If you or anyone else wants to know if the head of the Vatican City State has the agenda of restoring the Holy Roman Empire or of expanding the Vatican City State to the Italian peninsula and beyond, there is an easy way to check: READ what the current Pope has said about world of politics and international relations. And you will find that the Pope has absolutely no plans to extend the sovereignty of the Vatican City State over broader territory.

But don't let the facts get in the way: go ahead and read some Bat-Sh*t crazy person and get all wee-wee'd up.

5 posted on 08/27/2010 11:55:41 AM PDT by Remole
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I like how they think they are “The Church”.


6 posted on 08/27/2010 11:56:20 AM PDT by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Hank Kerchief
You also link to Nicholas Gruner's "America Needs Fatima".

The apostolic nuncio for the United States (the Pope's ambassador to the US), has publicly declared that Gruner is not a Catholic in good standing and that he is suspended from public ministry. He has not had clerical faculties for more than 30 years.

7 posted on 08/27/2010 11:57:06 AM PDT by wideawake
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Is Reginald Firehammer a real person or is he a creation to make anti-Catholics look stupid?


9 posted on 08/27/2010 12:00:15 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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You also link to a site calling itself "RealCatholicTV."

This site is not affiliated with the Catholic Church in any way, and the presenters openly reject the teachings of the Second Vatican Council and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

In other words, you are using three non-Catholic sources to slander the Catholic Church.

10 posted on 08/27/2010 12:00:36 PM PDT by wideawake
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I’m not a Catholic and I only have one question: IBTZ?


11 posted on 08/27/2010 12:04:18 PM PDT by Ingtar (If Washington and his peers had been RINOs, we would still be a British colony.)
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

Does this mean that evangelical Christians do not seek to structure all human relations, institutions and the state itself according to their doctrine? If not, then why are so many so busy fighting about which candidate will do just that? Are evangelicals trying to reform society and the State after their own faith actually totalitarians?

12 posted on 08/27/2010 12:06:44 PM PDT by cothrige
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Catholics are definitely taking over America. I can see it all around me. And they are headquartered in Spring Grove PA 17362

Their leader is Robert.

Robert Ritchie.
http://www.blogger.com/profile/01255099011195090367

A blogger no less!


13 posted on 08/27/2010 12:10:34 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: Hank Kerchief

Delusional bilge.


14 posted on 08/27/2010 12:11:48 PM PDT by piytar (Those who never learned that peace and freedom are rare will be taught by reality.)
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Hey who gave away the plot!!!! That durn Dan Brown he stirred up the pot and now our plans for world domination have been ferretted out!!! DANG IT!!!


15 posted on 08/27/2010 12:14:30 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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Dung


16 posted on 08/27/2010 12:15:28 PM PDT by kanawa (Obama - "The only people who don't want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.")
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To: Hank Kerchief

Drats. You figured out our scheme. If it wasn’t for you meddling kids...

Well back to the drawing board.

((insert evil laugh here))


17 posted on 08/27/2010 12:15:52 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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This is someone’s warped idea to equate Roman Catholicism with Islam. I would bet they took an article about Islam and replaced “Islamic Worldwide Caliphate” with “Catholic Dictatorship” and “Islam” with “Roman Catholic”, etc.

They are making a false analogy, don’t fall for accepting the premise.


19 posted on 08/27/2010 12:18:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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So how much did the Muzzies pay you to post this?

Christianity and theocracy are mutually incompatible, and this has been the experience since the dawn of Christianity. Calvin tried to establish a theocracy in Geneva - and it failed. The Puritans tried to establish one here - and it failed.

A theocracy is where the religious law and the civil law are the same, and the state is governed by the clergy. The only group that does this is Islam (Mormonism would have done it, but the US Army knocked that out of them).

State churches are churches that the state approves for its official functions and as the official recorder of civil acts (marriages and burials, primarily), and are not a good thing. But at least the Catholic Church never appointed a secular ruler as leader of the church, as the Anglicans did with Henry VIII. Being a state church undermines the church and is one of the reasons the Lutherans were never able to fight back against Hitler very effectively.

But it still acknowledges the fact that the Church and the State are two separate entities. Mosque and State are one and the same.


21 posted on 08/27/2010 12:22:07 PM PDT by livius
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The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

This Catholic would love to set Reginald straight on this issue.

Though I think Mr. Firehammer is full of prune juice, I can foresee something akin to the Holy Roman Empire stirring back to life if (and only if) the secular world remains supine in the face of aggressive Islamic expansion.

And of course, the western world would probably fear the Catholics more than the Caliphate on their doorstep. Perhaps they *should* be fearful. After all, we do have the Holy Hand Grenade.

;-)

22 posted on 08/27/2010 12:26:41 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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Hi again, Hank. How are things in atheist-ville? I hope you’re well and doing fine. :)


24 posted on 08/27/2010 12:31:33 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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Awwww....are they all out of Troll food where you come from?

I don’t have any either. Try a nice mosque.

*Don’t bet on the ham though.


28 posted on 08/27/2010 12:40:37 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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