How radical Islam makes you: a bigot religiously - a racist ethnically

[Zionist Conspirator]

According to Kamen, the irony was that many of the Jews who converted were zealous for the new faith

The Jewish liberals of their day.

[RobbyS]

Well, not the first of the line. In the 4th Century many Jews became Christians and were despised for their opportunism by John Chrysostom. I think it is this quality, both a virtue and a vice, that explains anti-semitism and indeed any form of nativism. The feeling that some people want it both ways, are unwilling to commit fully to the regnant social order.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Well, not the first of the line. In the 4th Century many Jews became Christians and were despised for their opportunism by John Chrysostom.

What would he have thought of the apostles, I wonder?

I think it is this quality, both a virtue and a vice, that explains anti-semitism and indeed any form of nativism. The feeling that some people want it both ways, are unwilling to commit fully to the regnant social order.

Ironically, "nativism" is perfectly acceptable so long as it is by non-"westerners"/"indigenous" peoples.

[RobbyS]

The apostles, save one, all died violently, as martyrs.

IAC, nativism is the normal reaction of people to the appearance of strangers in their territory. When they come in large numbers , this is rightly viewed as a threat. But as you imply, people like the Japanese get away with being the most exclusive people in the world. There are people in Japan whose ancestors came five hundred years ago who are treated as outsiders by the Japanese. Never mind that the Japanese are not the aborgines in those islands.

[Zionist Conspirator]

IAC, nativism is the normal reaction of people to the appearance of strangers in their territory. When they come in large numbers , this is rightly viewed as a threat. But as you imply, people like the Japanese get away with being the most exclusive people in the world. There are people in Japan whose ancestors came five hundred years ago who are treated as outsiders by the Japanese. Never mind that the Japanese are not the aborgines in those islands.

Hey, don't forget that we're foreign devils trespassing on Turtle Island, whose original inhabitants are Spanish. Darn that Billy Bob Columbus for bringing those rednecks over here!

[SunkenCiv]

Note: this topic is from 6/14/2010. Thanks Righting.